HomeMy WebLinkAbout2011/02/15-Minutes-City Council-Special CalledCITY COUNCIL
CITY OF FORT WORTH, TEXAS
CALLED — SPECIAL MEETING
FEBRUARY 15, 2011
Present
Mayor Mike Moncrief
Council Member Salvador Espino, District 2
Council Member W. B. "Zim" Zimmerman, District 3
Council Member Frank Moss, District 5
Council Member Carter Burdette, District 7
Council Member Kathleen Hicks, District 8
Absent
Council Member Joel Burns, District 9
City staff
Tom Higgins, Interim City Manager
Sarah Fullenwider, City Attorney
Peter Vaky, Deputy City Attorney
Marty Hendrix, City Secretary
Ethics Complainants
Jim Ashford, Complainant, Ethics Complaint No. 2010 -01
Louis McBee, Complainant, Ethics Complaint Nos. 2010 -03 and 04
Persons Complained Against
Council Member Danny Scarth, District 4
Council Member Jungus Jordan, District 6
Donald E. Herrmann, Attorney with Kelly Hart & Hallman LLP, representing Council Members
Others Present
Mark G. Daniel, attorney representing the Ethics Review Committee
With a quorum of the City Council Members present, Mayor Moncrief called the called -
special session of the Fort Worth City Council to order at 2:00 p.m., on Tuesday, February 15,
2011, in the Pre - Council Chamber, 1000 Throckmorton Street, Fort Worth, Texas 76102.
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City Council Hearing on Appeal of Findings
by the City's Ethics Review Committee in
Cause No. 2010 -01, a Complaint Filed
Against Council Members Jungus Jordan
and Danny Scarth by Fort Worth Resident
Jim Ashford
Overview of Previous Hearings /Findings —
City Attorney
(Agenda Item 2)
(Agenda Item 2 -a)
Mayor Moncrief requested City Attorney Sarah Fullenwider provide an overview of the
proceedings that were to take place at this meeting.
City Attorney. Sarah Fullenwider advised that this special meeting of the Fort Worth City
Council had been called to hear appeals of the findings issued by the City's Ethics Review
Committee in Cause No. 2010 -01, filed by Fort Worth resident Jim Ashford against Council
Members Danny Scarth and Jungus Jordan and Cause No. 2010 -03 and Cause No. 2010 -04, filed
by Fort Worth resident Louis McBee, which were ethics complaints filed against Council
Member Danny Scarth and Council Members Danny Scarth and Jungus Jordan, respectively.
Using a PowerPoint presentation, City Attorney Fullenwider provided background
information on the first appeal to be heard by the City Council, which was Cause No. 2010 -01 to
the findings by the City's Ethics Review Committee to a complaint filed by Mr. Jim Ashford on
March 29, 2010, and amended on July 28, 2010.
City Attorney Fullenwider stated that the complaint alleged that Council Members
Jungus Jordan and Danny Scarth had a substantial interest in Chesapeake and XTO, respectively,
and thus should have disclosed that fact and not participated in the following matters:
1. An amendment to the gas drilling ordinance which was voted on by the City
Council on December 16, 2008;
2. Amendments to the Comprehensive Zoning Ordinance related to various gas
drilling matters (ZC -09 -016, March 3, 2009);
3. Discussions regarding possible amendments to the gas drilling ordinance at the
February 2, 2010, Pre - Council meeting; and
4. The appointment of two employees of Chesapeake and XTO as members to the
Air Quality Study Committee.
City Attorney Fullenwider stated that the complaint alleged that the four actions violated
Section 2 -236, 2 -238 and 2- 239(a) of the Code of Ethics.
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Overview of Previous Hearings /Findings —
City Attorney — Cause No. 2010 -01 (cont'd) (Agenda Item 2 -a)
City Attorney Fullenwider advised of the timeline for the hearings before the Ethics
Review Committee (ERC) as follows:
1. May 20, 2010: ERC Preliminary Hearing
2. September 24, 2010: ERC final hearing
3. Quorum of three (3) members were present (Members Hortenica Laguna
and Rebecca Lucas were not present but had been notified of the hearing.)
4. ERC heard evidence and considered arguments of the complainant and
respondents
City Attorney Fullenwider presented the ERC findings as follows:
• None of the actions cited by the complainant violated the "substantial interest"
provisions of the Code because Chesapeake and XTO were not involved in those
matters and no issues involved a decision concerning real property.
• No violation of Section 2 -236 occurred because that section was only a
declaration of policy.
City Attorney Fullenwider advised that the appeal filed by Jim Ashford on October 4,
2010, alleged the ERC errored as follows:
• By hearing the case with only three new members present and without the two
remaining members (Ms. Laguna and Ms. Lucas);
• In its determination that Section 2 -239 was not violated in that Chesapeake and
XTO were involved with the Gas Drilling Task Force by holding positions on the
Task Force and the ordinance directly affected these companies and regulated the
way the companies conducted their oil and gas business; and
• By failing to find that Mr. Scarth and Mr. Jordan had a substantial interest in XTO
and Chesapeake, respectively, and should have disclosed this interest and
abstained from voting.
City Attorney Fullenwider advised that the City Council options in this hearing were to
hear from Mr. Ashford, the complainant, and to hear from Council Members Jordan and Scarth
or their representative, close the public hearing and determine whether:
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Overview of Previous Hearings /Findings
City Attorney — Cause No. 2010 -01 (cont'd) (Agenda Item 2 -a)
• The ERC was prejudiced in its deliberations;
• New evidence was available that was not considered by the ERC; or
• The ERC committed some error in its deliberations
She stated that if the answer was "no ", the Council should deny the appeal in its entirety.
She stated that if the answer was "yes ", then the City Council should hold an evidentiary hearing,
either by the City Council or a hearing officer. She pointed out that if a hearing officer
conducted a hearing, then the officer would report back their findings to the City Council for
further action.
City Attorney Fullenwider completed her presentation.
Council Member Hicks requested to know who the Hearing Officer would be. City
Attorney Fullenwider responded that the City Council would select the hearing officer. She also
clarified that the hearing officer would not make the final determination, they were just making
findings of facts, which then the Council would consider those findings in another appeals
hearing.
Mayor Moncrief clarified with City Attorney Fullenwider if each appeal was to be heard
separately or altogether. City Attorney Fullenwider explained that it was separately and Mr.
Ashford's appeal was the first appeal to be heard, Cause No. 2010 -01.
Argument by Complainant — Jim Ashford (Agenda Item 2 -b)
Mayor Moncrief requested Mr. Ashford provide his argument to the City Council
regarding Cause No. 2010 -01.
Jim Ashford, 6209 Riverview Circle, Fort Worth, Texas 76112, spoke before the City
Council regarding his appeal. Mr. Ashford expressed his appreciation to the City Council for
hearing him. He stated that he was a little confused as to why there was a necessity on his part to
prove a reason for the Council to hear this appeal. He added that when an appeal was requested
to hear a previous charge against three gas drilling employees that had been awarded in his favor
by the Ethics Review Committee and which the City Council ultimately overruled, there was no
hearing required of them to justify anything to proceed directly into a hearing on that matter.
Mr. Ashford questioned the reason that he had to do so. He stated that he had to wonder
if it was because the City Council did not like him or was it because the gas drilling industry got
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Argument by Complainant — Jim Ashford (cont'd) (Agenda Item 2 -b)
an automatic pass. He indicated the reason this case should be heard was for the following
reasons: The Ethics Review Committee committed an error in its deliberations of Cause No.
2010 -01 with the hearing itself. He stated the ethics hearing was held with only three (3) new
members present. He added that in itself violated the assurances by the City Council to the
citizens of Fort Worth, and him, there would be five (5) ERC members hearing the current cases,
which would include this one.
Mr. Ashford stated that the Mayor stated at the August 24, 2010, City Council meeting,
"these hearings would be heard by the old members, with the new members, with the current
chair, and the new members." Mr. Ashford stated that Council Member Hicks spoke of ensuring
that the City would have a full ERC for all future hearings at that meeting.
Mr. Ashford then requested that video excerpts of that meeting be shown on a DVD disk
that he had provided to City staff and he stated that the City Council would hear what the citizens
were assured.
A variety of sequences were shown from the Council Meeting held on August 24, 2010,
to the City Council Members.
Mr. Ashford stated that Council Member Hicks even requested clarification at that
Council meeting, prior to any vote to approve those members, and was assured by the City
Attorney there would be three (3) new members with the two (2) remaining members.
He stated that the City Council specifically requested, and was assured by the City
Attorney, that there would be five (5) members to hear this and other cases. Mr. Ashford stated,
"again, the Mayor also spoke of the necessity of having a full committee for all future hearings."
Mr. Ashford stated that when this hearing, following the Council meeting was scheduled,
there was one postponement of Cause No. 2010 -01, this case, and he was told it was because one
of the new members was unavailable. He added he was not told the two (2) original members
would not be available.
Mr. Ashford stated that there was now reason to believe the City Attorney, the ERC and
perhaps the City Council were aware the two (2) original members would no longer be members
at these hearings. He stated that since that meeting had already been postponed once due to the
inability of everyone being able to attend, it should have been postponed until the City Council
could resolve this issue. He pointed out that it was not resolved.
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Argument by Complainant — Jim Ashford (cont'd) (Agenda Item 2 -b)
Mr. Ashford stated that instead of having a full committee of five (5) members as the
Council had assured him, there were only the three (3) new members who knew virtually nothing
about this or other cases.
Mr. Ashford stated that in addition under the current rules, it required a majority vote to
prevail in a case. He stated that if there were five (5) members present, it required three (3) votes
to prevail. He stated that was 60 percent of the committee. He stated that if only three (3)
members were present, it still required three (3) votes. He stated that was 100 percent vote.
Mr. Ashford stated that the meeting on Cause No. 2010 -01 should not have occurred
under this unfair and questionable cloud. He stated that in his opinion, the ERC did not act in an
honorable manner, as there were numerous questions about the committee make -up. Mr.
Ashford stated that committee obviously did not appear to think it was important to respect what
the Council had told the citizens or the fairness to him.
Mr. Ashford stated that there were additional problems. He stated that the ERC itself did
not have a quorum present as required. He stated that one (1) of the three (3) members was
ineligible to serve on the committee. He cited Section 2 -241 of the City of Fort Worth's Ethics
Code as follows: "paragraph (c) Members stated, no member shall hold any city elected or
appointed office."
Mr. Ashford stated that Mr. Hernandez held the office appointed by the City and served
on the D /FW International Airport Board. He stated that the D /FW International Airport Board
position was appointed by the City Council.
Mr. Ashford repeated the contents of that section of the Code. He added that Mr.
Hernandez was appointed by the City to an office on the D /FW International Airport Board. He
stated that the City of Fort Worth's official web site listed the boards, commissions and
committees of Fort Worth. He provided to the Council a printed copy of that site.
Mr. Ashford referenced page 2. He stated that the City's official web site listed the
D /FW International Airport Board as a board. He then referenced the City's Code of
Ordinances, Division 3 — Rules and Procedures for Certain City Boards, Section 2 -81, paragraph
(1) Definition. He stated as used in that section, "the term "City board" shall mean any board,
commission, committee or other body, which is created by the City Council and is not required
to exist by the City Charter or state law." Mr. Ashford stated that the City Charter or state law
did not require the Airport Board; it was required by a contract with Dallas and was created by
the City Council with Resolution 521 in 1977 or 1978.
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Argument by Complainant — Jim Ashford (cont'd) (Agenda Item 2 -b)
Mr. Ashford referenced Division 3, Rules for City Board, Section 2- 83(b), which
included board provisions for the Dallas /Fort Worth International Airport Board, as a board. He
cited this section as follows:
"Those boards excepted from the provisions of this section regarding the
number of members serving on the board, and regarding the length of
terms of service, because of conflicting state law, city charter provision or
city council exception, shall include currently, but shall not be limited to,
the following: Civil Service Commission; Dallas /Fort Worth International
Joint Airport Zoning Board; Meacham Field Joint Airport Zoning Board;
City Council exception (ordinance); Dallas /Fort Worth International
Airport Board; state law exception."
Mr. Ashford stated that the state law exception referred only to how many board
members were allowed or required on the airport board.
Mr. Ashford stated that Section 2 -241 of the Code of Ethics paragraph (c) stated one (1)
member of the committee shall be an attorney. He added it did not say at least one, nor did it say
one or more. He stated it stated one (1). He added one (1) and only (1) was specified. He
pointed out that the City's ERC had three (3) attorneys, not one.
Mr. Ashford stated for an example that if he brought the City Council a cake and had
been instructed that it should have one candle, how many candles would the City Council expect
to see? He stated "one." He added that he saw three (3) candles on this cake.
Mr. Ashford stated that paragraph (c) went on to say, "as reasonably as possible the
membership of the committee shall be fairly representative of all of the population of the city."
He added that three (3) attorneys on this committee were not representative of the city. He stated
this committee was made up containing 60 percent attorneys. Mr. Ashford stated that the ERC
consisted of ineligible members that were not eligible to serve on the ERC. He stated that there
was no quorum. Mr. Ashford stated that the intent of the Council was clear to the public in what
was intended at the Council meeting on August 24, 2010. He stated that in spite of this
information being presented to the three (3) ERC Members before the hearing, they ignored his
and Mr. McBee's concerns and the information provided to them. He stated that it was known
weeks in advance the two (2) original members would not be there. He stated that there was not
even a name card on the table for the two (2) missing members. He stated that there were name
cards for the new members and their attorney, but not for the two (2) whom they knew would not
be there.
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Argument by Complainant — Jim Ashford (cont'd) (Agenda Item 2 -b)
Mr. Ashford stated that the fair, reasonable and proper action would have been to adjourn
the meeting. He added that since they already knew the original members were not going to
participate, they should have informed the Council about the situation, and that the Council's
wishes of having a full committee with the current chair was not possible. He stated that there
had already been one postponement, so another would have been the logical thing to do and get
things in order. He stated that proper action could have been taken and everyone could have
proceeded. He reiterated the three (3) ERC Members violated the Ethics Code, Section 2- 241(c).
He reiterated that there were excessive attorneys, and one (1) individual on the committee that
already held a city appointed office.
Mr. Ashford referenced paragraph (g) of the Ethics Code that stated "members of the
committee shall be independent in fact and appearance when hearing matters brought before the
committee." Mr. Ashford stated that he had reason to question these three (3) members' ability
to be impartial. He stated that in his opinion, their decision had already been made before the
hearing. He stated that the committee seemed to disregard the City's ordinances and the Texas
local codes to deny these charges. He stated that he had to question why they would do that. He
added that the Committee misapplied and misinterpreted Article 7, Code of Ethics, Section 2-
239. He stated that the disclosure of interest, as was stated in the verbal reading of the findings
was as follows:
"(a) If any city officer has a substantial interest in any person, group or business
entity involved in any decision pending before such officer or the body of which
he or she is a member, such officer shall disclose such interest and shall not vote
or otherwise participate in the consideration of the matter."
Mr. Ashford stated the ERC's findings stated they did not see how Chesapeake or XTO
would be "involved" or "involved in any decision" as used in Section 2 -239 Disclosure of
Interest. He stated that he believed that they erred in this determination. He added that it was
not reasonable to say Chesapeake and XTO were not "involved" with the Gas Drilling Task
Force. He stated that included in the Code's definition of "involved" would also mean
"included."
Mr. Ashford stated that Chesapeake and XTO had individual employees or lobbyists on
the Task Force making the recommendations to the City Council, which Mr. Scarth and Mr.
Jordon were to vote on. He stated that both XTO and Chesapeake had numerous individual
meetings with the Mayor and other Council Members, along with City staff. He stated that they
presented information at the public hearings and City Council meetings for the Council to
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Argument by Complainant — Jim Ashford (cont'd) (Agenda Item 2 -b)
consider. He stated that perhaps most important was that the ordinance, once passed, regulated
the way Chesapeake and XTO would do business within the City of Fort Worth. He stated that it
was impossible to separate the two (2) largest gas - drilling companies from the industry these
ordinances regulate. He stated that to state Chesapeake and XTO is or was not "involved" would
be unreasonable for any prudent person to find acceptable.
Mr. Ashford stated that Section 2 -239 (a) had a much broader application than applied to
the above example. He stated how the ERC chose to interpret the ordinance was an unreasonably
narrow and incorrect application of the wording.
Mr. Ashford stated that in Section 2- 239(a), the rule was very clear, if not emphatic,
when it stated; "If any city officer has a substantial interest in any business entity, involved in
any decision pending before such officer, or the body of which he is a member (they are on the
City Council), such officer shall disclose such interest and shall not vote or otherwise participate
in the consideration of such matter." He stated that Council Member Scarth and Council
Member Jordon have acknowledged they do have such interests.
Mr. Ashford stated that the Code of Ethics was written to provide its citizens with the
broadest range of protection from potential wrongdoing by its appointed and elected officials as
was outlined by Section 2 -236, declaration of policy and the entire Article 7, Code of Ethics.
Mr. Ashford stated that specific information would be presented during the hearing to
support his charges.
Mr. Ashford completed his comments.
At this time, Mayor Moncrief called upon Mark G. Daniel, the attorney for the ERC, to
speak on the matter regarding a quorum of the ERC.
Mr. Daniel explained that the committee consisted of five (5) members. He explained
that Reverend Daniels had resigned from the committee due to health concerns. He stated that
the other two (2) remaining members were Rebecca Lucas and Hortenica Laguna, who had
previously served as the Chair. He advised that Ms. Lucas and Ms. Laguna had been informed
of the meeting and had sent a message back that they were not planning on attending. He stated
as to the matter of a quorum, there were three (3) of the five (5) members present at the meeting,
Mr. Aldridge, Mr. Hernandez and Ms. Roby. He stated that there was a majority present, three
(3) out of the five (5) members constituted a quorum. He added that prior to the meeting, and he
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Argument by Complainant — Jim Ashford (cont'd) (Agenda Item 2 -b)
did not remember who brought the dialogue up, there was discussion, something to the effect and
it might have come from the City Secretary's Office that the ERC cannot make members attend.
He stated that on that measure as he remembered, the present members selected Mr. Aldridge as
the Chair and the meeting went forward with a valid quorum.
Mr. Ashford interrupted and stated that the City Attorney advised the ERC that Mr.
Hernandez was not on a City board. He stated that he was on a City board and he was ineligible
to serve and he is ineligible to serve.
Mayor Moncrief requested that City Attorney Fullenwider respond. City Attorney
Fullenwider stated that they had talked about an "officer" or someone that was an "appointed
member." She stated that he was appointed by the City Council to the airport board, but he was
not an appointed officer. She added that would be someone similar to the City Manager. She
stated that the opinion by the City Attorney at that time was that he was eligible to serve.
Argument by Persons Complained Against —
Attorney Don Herrmann (Agenda Item 2 -c)
Mayor Moncrief recognized Don Herrmann, the attorney representing Council Members
Scarth and Jordan.
Mr. Herrmann indicated that his comments were going to be brief and pointed out that
detailed information had been provided to the City Council Members, including the ERC's
opinions, which he felt were thorough and self - explanatory. He stated that he would not bother
to address Mr. Ashford's challenge to either the composition of the ERC or the honor or integrity
of its members. He simply stated that he was in attendance at the hearing and he stated that he
did not recall hearing Mr. Ashford ask that the meeting be postponed for any purpose or any
period of time. He stated that he did not think that issue ever arose at least according to his
recollection.
Mr. Herrmann stated that he felt the appeal raised two issues only; one was the challenge
to the composition of the ERC. He stated that the other was the votes or the concerns for votes
of Council Members Scarth and Jordan on the composition of the Air Quality Study Committee.
He stated that the evidence at the hearing was clear; the persons selected and voted on were
selected through a process conducted by City staff. He added the selection process was purely a
Council decision, XTO and Chesapeake had no direct involvement whatsoever.
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Argument by Persons Complained Against —
Attorney Don Herrmann (cont'd) (Agenda Item 2 -c)
Council Member Hicks interrupted and questioned as to whether the City Council was
hearing each case one by one. She stated that Mr. Herrmann was talking about whether Council
Members Jordan and Scarth could participate in these votes. She stated that she thought that the
first thing that the City Council was looking at specifically was whether the ERC should have
been looking at this in the first place. She asked whether the City Council could deal with that
issue first.
Mayor Moncrief stated that the Council certainly could; however, he felt the City Council
was also responding to earlier discussions by Mr. Ashford about those votes.
Mr. Herrmann interjected and stated that as he understood the appeal on matter 2010 -01,
it raised two (2) issues. He stated that the first issue had to do with the composition of the ERC.
He stated that the second issue had to do with Council Members Scarth and Jordan's votes.
Council Member Hicks stated that she understood that and she was wondering if they had
something to say specifically about that issue because so far all the City Council had heard was
from Mr. Ashford was specifically about the makeup of the ERC. She asked if he had other
statements to make or were his statements completed. She added that she was completely
confused by the process. She then asked Mr. Ashford if he had other comments to make
specifically about Council Member Scarth and Jordan voting on certain issues or was the City
Council about to vote or what. She added that she did not know and stated she felt she was in
"no man's land."
Mayor Moncrief stated to Council Member Hicks that Mr. Ashford's comments had
included comments regarding the voting in his earlier presentation. He added that was what he
had heard.
Mayor Moncrief requested Mr. Herrmann continue with his comments. He stated that the
evidence at the hearing and as the ERC's opinion showed was that Chesapeake and XTO had no
direct involvement in the selection or the vote on the members of the Air Quality Study
Commission and in the absence of the involvement of Chesapeake and XTO, there would be no
reason under the Ethics Code for an abstention by either Council Member Scarth or Council
Member Jordan, even if one assumed, and he was not sure it was an accurate assumption, that
they had a disqualifying substantial interest in those companies. He stated for that reason, the
ERC did not commit any error in its rulings.
Mr. Herrmann completed his comments.
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Mayor Moncrief opened the floor for any questions to Mr. Herrmann.
Argument by Persons Complained Against —
Attorney Don Herrmann (cont'd) (Agenda Item 2 -c)
City Attorney Fullenwider indicated that she wanted to clarify one thing that Mr. Ashford
brought up in his comments. She referenced Section 2 -241 stated that no member of the Ethics
Review Committee shall hold a city elected or appointed office. She then referenced the
definition of "officer" that meant any member of the City Council and any appointed member of
a board, commission or committee established by ordinance or under state law. She stated that a
person could be a city officer and serve on a board but not be an appointed office. She stated
that there was a distinction between the two whether or not a person was a city officer or an
appointed office. She added that she wanted to make that clear.
Mayor Moncrief asked Mr. Ashford if he had any closing arguments.
Rebuttal by Mr. Ashford
Mr. Ashford stated that in regards for not asking for a continuation, he indicated that it
was his suggestion at the ERC meeting to postpone the meeting and send it back to the City
Council because they knew that it was not what they had been assured, that there would have
been five (5) members. He stated as a matter of fact at the Council meeting, the City as a whole
was assured that there were going to be five (5) members. He stated that there were three (3)
members. He added the City staff knew before even the Council meeting that those two (2)
members would not be present. He stated the two (2) members that were still there and still
eligible had sent in a letter and had said that the Mayor had terminated them. He stated that was
the terminology that they had used. He stated that the Mayor had the authority to do so. He
added the City Attorney at that time stated that the Mayor did not have that authority. Mr.
Ashford indicated that the Mayor did have the authority. He added that was what was stated in
the ordinance. He stated that he did ask for an extension because things were not in order. He
stated that the other issue had to do with whether it was an appointed office. He stated that Mr.
Hernandez was an officer of the City. Mr. Ashford stated he was appointed. He added that
made it an appointed office. He stated that there were two (2) out of the three (3) members that
were attorneys. He stated the ordinance specifically stated one (1). He stated that it did not
make any provisions for having two (2) or three (3), or four (4), or five (5) attorneys. He stated
that it did not. He stated that the Code stated one (1) and that what was what was required. He
stated that it had the number one (1) in it and there was no question about that. He added that the
makeup of the committee was improper. He stated that there was misinformation provided to the
ERC.
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Rebuttal by Mr. Ashford (cont'd)
Council Member Hicks requested a clarification of what misinformation was provided to
the ERC. Mr. Ashford stated that the committee was told that Mr. Hernandez did not serve on a
board. Mr. Ashford then requested assistance from Mr. McBee to provide further explanation.
Mr. McBee indicated he would assist. Mr. Ashford stated that there were several things that
were said that the City Attorney was incorrect on. He stated that the City Attorney kept going
back to the fact that there were three (3) members present and that made a quorum. He stated
that in order to have a quorum the City had to have everybody there legitimate. He stated that
one of the members was specifically not legitimate. He stated that there were two (2) members
there that were attorneys. He stated that the ordinance stated one (1) attorney.
Mayor Moncrief clarified with Mr. Ashford what the Ethics Code ordinance stated and he
asked if it stated that there would be no more than one (1) attorney. Mr. Ashford stated that the
ordinance stated that there shall be one (1) attorney. Mayor Moncrief posed the question to Mr.
Ashford that it did not meant that there could not be two (2). Mr. Ashford responded that was
right. Mr. Ashford added that if it said there could be one (1) or more, but he stated that it just
said one (1), a specific number. He added he did not know the reason that was put in the Code
but it was put in there.
Mayor Moncrief opened the floor for other questions.
Council Member Hicks indicated she had questions about the time line and directed her
questions to Mr. Ashford. She requested he share or remind the Council when he showed the
video where the Council voted on the appointments and when was the hearing.
City Attorney Fullenwider interjected that the preliminary hearing was held on May 20,
2011, and then the final hearing was held on September 24, 2011.
Council Member Hicks asked if during that time Reverend Daniels and Ms. Lucas
resigned. City Attorney Fullenwider explained that Reverend Daniels did resign and a letter of
resignation was received from him. She added that letters of resignation were not received from
the other two (2) members, Ms. Luca and Ms. Laguna. City Attorney Fullenwider explained that
the City received correspondence from them, but not that they were formally resigning.
Mr. Louis McBee interjected that he had the timeline and would be glad to furnish
Council Member Hicks with a copy.
Council Member Hicks requested clarification about the fact that even though Council
Member Burns was not present today, the City Council could still hold the meeting. Council
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Member Hicks requested to know the quorum requirements for the ERC and whether it was three
(3) out of the five (5) members. City Attorney Fullenwider explained that the ordinance required
three (3) out of the five (5) members be present, which would constitute a quorum.
Mr. Ashford requested to speak again. He stated that he was not on the telephone call so
he did not know what was said.
Council Member Hicks requested clarification on what telephone call.
Mr. Ashford stated the original phone call from Mayor Moncrief to the committee
members. Mr. Ashford read the contents of a letter. He stated the letter said: "On Thursday,
August 19, 2010, (Mr. Ashford stated this was five (5) days before the Council meeting), Mayor
Moncrief called me to inform me that my services on the Ethics Committee were terminated. I
accepted my termination as of that date. I will not be in attendance at any additional meetings.
He stated this letter was dated September 1, 2010. He added the hearing on his case was heard
was several weeks after that and it had been postponed once already. He stated that the City
Council saw on the video what the City Council said and what the Mayor assured the City. Mr.
Ashford stated that he had every reason to believe that was what was going to happen. He stated
that he believed that there had been many times when the intent of the Council was actually more
important than what the words were. He stated that he felt the video pretty much showed the
intent of the Council and certainly the ERC should have gone back to the Council and said to the
Council that they could not do what the City Council said was going to happen. He stated that
they did not do that.
At this time, Mayor Moncrief recognized City Attorney Fullenwider for clarification.
City Attorney Fullenwider referenced the video that was provided by Mr. Ashford and stated that
it was the intent of the Council that the two (2) remaining members would continue to serve with
the three (3) new members to hear this complaint. She stated that was the reason the City
Attorney rendered the opinion that the Mayor did not have the authority to terminate as Ms.
Lucas eluded to in her letter her appointment to this ERC. City Attorney Fullenwider pointed
out that there was a letter from Ms. Lucas stating that she had been terminated, although that was
clearly not the case of what happened at the City Council meeting where the Council appointed
three (3) new members to serve with the two (2) remaining members and the Council expected
them to show up for the hearing.
Mr. Ashford interjected that what City Attorney Yett stated was that the Mayor did not
have the authority to fire them. Mr. Ashford referenced the Ethics Code, Section 2.240 Required
Function, 2.241(e) ..." in addition to the City Council's usual powers of removal "....Mr.
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Ashford indicated that he did not know what that was. He read the rest of the section
"....members of the committee may be removed by a majority of the City Council for a violation
of this article." Mr. Ashford stated that what the City Attorney had stated was that the Mayor
could not terminate these people, he could not fire them, that only the City Council could do that.
He referenced the letter again and stated that was not what that letter stated. He referenced again
the portion of the Code that stated the "usual powers of removal." He stated that if he was on a
committee and the Mayor called him and stated that he was fired or terminated and that the City
did not need him, he stated that would be the end of his service right there. He stated that would
certainly be a reasonable understanding and he felt that was what had happened. He reiterated
that he was not on the phone call and he does not know what was said. He added that he only
had the letter.
Council Member Moss requested that the City Attorney review again the clarification of
the issue that one person shall hold any elective or appointed office or be a candidate for such
office. He stated that the only thing that he was concerned about was that it referenced any city
elected or appointed office. He added that was directly to the City of Fort Worth, and if that was
correct. City Attorney Fullenwider stated that the distinction that she was making was that a
person could be a city officer but not hold an appointed office. She stated that a person could be
an officer if they were appointed to a board or commission, but that did not make a person an
appointed office, i.e., the City Manager, City Attorney, City Secretary. Mayor Moncrief added
where a person had authority.
Council Member Moss added as it related directly to the City of Fort Worth. He added
that the City Council may appoint someone to another body; however, the language referenced a
city elected or appointed office. City Attorney Fullenwider stated that was correct.
Mr. Ashford asked if Mr. Hernandez took an oath when he took his position on the
airport board. Mayor Moncrief asked who he was directing his question to and Mr. Ashford
responded to anyone. There was no response.
Council Member Espino stated that he thought he understood what the City Attorney was
saying. He stated that anyone that served on a board or commission was an officer of the CityHe
clarified that what was being said was that an officer was not the same as an appointed office and
this was how he understood the legal argument on that position.
Mr. Ashford interjected and asked the Council to tell him where it said that. He indicated
that the Council was splitting hairs.
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Council Member Moss stated that airport board was not a city board so it was not the
City and added that the language referenced stated pretty clearly that it looked as if it was talking
about a City elected or appointed office.
Mr. Ashford interjected again that he felt the Council missed what he had talked about
earlier. He stated he made a number of references to the City's web site which listed it as a
board. He then referenced Section 2 -83 of the Ethics Code which included board provisions for
the Dallas /Fort Worth International Airport as a board. He stated it made rules. He stated the
City Charter listed it as a City board. He stated in the contract with Fort Worth, it listed the
position as a board. He stated it was appointed by the City. He stated there were four (4) places
from Fort Worth, seven (7) from Dallas. He stated that it was a City- appointed board and he
stated that it was an office. He stated that he had not heard anyone talk about the fact that there
were three (3) attorneys on the ERC. He stated that was a clear violation. He stated that three
(3) attorneys was certainly not representative of the City of Fort Worth because 60% was not
representative of the city.
Council Member Hicks posed a question to Mr. Ashford. She stated that Attorney
Herrmann stated that Mr. Ashford did not say anything at his hearing regarding the three (3)
members that were present. Mr. Ashford indicated that there was a long conversation regarding
that issue and it was reflected in the minutes. Mr. Ashford stated that there were five (5) to six
(6) pages of minutes at the beginning of the meeting where he and Mr. McBee asked that it be
postponed. He reiterated that they walked in the room expecting to see five (5) people and there
were not five (5) people as they had been assured. He stated that they asked for it to be
postponed. He stated that they did not have very much time to find out that much about the
different individuals. He added that they knew that Mr. Hernandez was on the Dallas /Fort Worth
International Airport Board. He stated that was an issue in itself. He stated that City Attorney
Yett had stated that it was not a City board. Mr. Ashford stated that it was a City board.
Mayor Moncrief stated that there appeared to be differences of opinion here.
City Attorney Fullenwider clarified to the City Council that at the time she did not recall
that Mr. Ashford raised the issue about being more than one (1) attorney either at the hearing or
in his appeal.
Mr. Ashford's response was that he certainly brought it up today. He stated it did not
make any difference -- it was true today and it was true then also. He stated that there was a lot
that he did not know then that he knows today. Mr. Ashford again repeated comments that they
were not prepared for a situation that was not what they had been told.
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Mayor Moncrief stated that the City Council would now deliberate.
City Council Determinations /Decisions (Agenda Item 2 -d)
Council Member Hicks posed a question to City Attorney Fullenwider regarding that
once a decision had been made by the City Council would it be final or was it appealable. City
Attorney Fullenwider stated that the City Council was the final body and she reviewed again the
decision options before the City Council as previously presented.
Council Member Burdette stated that a lot if interesting arguments had been raised by
Mr. Ashford. He added primarily the arguments that the Council was hearing on this appeal in
Cause No. 2010 -01 by Mr. Ashford were about the procedures undertaken before the ERC, the
make -up of the committee and whether it should have proceeded with the hearing. He stated that
he did not know how many of those issues Mr. Ashford raised at the hearing but he had raised
them here at this meeting. Council Member Burdette stated that he had difficulty with those
arguments. He stated first of all he was at the Council meeting at which the three (3) new
members were appointed to the ERC and having been there and seen the video today, it was his
understanding then and it was his understanding now that what the Council was doing and what
the Council was assuring was that the Council was going to reconstitute the committee, which
had dwindled in membership. He added it was necessary to appoint three (3) new members in
order to have a full panel of five (5) members. He stated that when he took that action he did not
intend it to mean that once a full five (5) member panel was appointed that they would not hear
any matters unless all five (5) members sat at whatever subsequent hearings might take place.
He added he did not think at that time anyone knew when the hearing was going to take place
before the full five (5) member panel or whether all five (5) members would be present. He
stated that it was clear from the rules and in the Charter as it is with this City Council, for
example, that the City had a nine - member Council and it did not mean that all nine (9) must
necessarily be present in order to deliberate. He stated that the requirement was that there be a
legal quorum. He stated that in this case three (3) of the five (5) constituted a quorum. He added
what he was hearing was that two (2) of the members indicated that they were advised of the
hearing and they advised that they would not attend. He stated that he felt a proper quorum was
there with the three (3) members. He stated that he did not believe that the City Council
intended and he did not believe that the City Council gave assurances that there would never be a
hearing of this five (5) member panel unless all members were present at the time. Council
Member Burdette stated that he felt that was not a valid argument.
Council Member Burdette stated regarding the question of Mr. Hernandez being a
member of the panel, he felt the advice from the City Attorney was correct. He stated that no
member held any city- elected or appointed office. He stated that he did not feel that Mr.
Hernandez held an office with the City. Council Member Burdette stated Mr. Hernandez may sit
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City Council Determinations /Decisions (cont'd) (Agenda Item 2 -d)
on a board and be part of the board but he was not a city officer any more than a member of the
Library Advisory Board was an officer of the City simply because they sat on that panel. He
added that he did not feel the argument that was made that he was ineligible was correct. He
stated that the other argument that was made was that there was more than one (1) attorney on
the panel who was licensed to practice in the State of Texas. He stated that the Ethics Code
language stated: "one member of the committee shall be an attorney licensed to practice in the
State of Texas." He added that he read that as plain English saying that in order for this ERC to
operate properly, it needed the advice, experience and education of a licensed attorney. He
added that mandate meant that there shall be at least one (1) attorney on there but he did not read
it to say that there could not be more than one (1) attorney on that particular panel. Council
Member Burdette stated, therefore, he did not think that argument made any sense. He stated
that in his opinion there were not any errors as to the procedures that were followed.
Council Member Burdette stated that the other argument that Mr. Ashford presented goes
to the merits of what were considered by the committee and what he heard him say was their
determination as indicated in their written response and ruling that XTO and Chesapeake were
"not involved" in the actions taken by the two (2) City Council Members was wrong and was not
reasonably and was too narrow an interpretation. He stated that he understood that Mr. Ashford
could make that argument; however, he did not think that invalidated the conclusion of the
committee. He stated he felt they heard the arguments and heard both sides and he felt that was
just a reasonable conclusion as the one that Mr. Ashford was advocating for. Council Member
Burdette stated that he felt they found there was no substantial interest in those two corporations
held by the Council Members. He stated that he did not view the fact that one or both of those
Council Members owned minerals and had leased the minerals to constitute a substantial interest
in the lessee, i.e., a substantial interest in XTO or Chesapeake. He added that if he owned a
mineral interest and leased it to Chesapeake; he was not acquiring an interest in Chesapeake. He
stated he still owned his property and had an interest in that particular piece of property. He
stated that he did not feel that constituted a substantial interest in either of those two (2)
companies. He stated that he did not believe that action by a Council Member on some matter
that came before this Council that affected a general group or a portion of the population on a
general basis constituted a violation of any of the ethics rules simply because of the fact that they
must act. He added that all City Council Members must act on general matters that come before
the Council that could affect people all over the City. He provided as an example of the fact that
his mortgage company and he owned his home, a piece of property that he owned in the City of
Fort Worth. He stated that as a property owner he was compelled to pay, and he does pay every
year, several thousands of dollars of taxes to the City of Fort Worth. He added that he, as well as
other Council Members, voted every year on the City's budget. He stated that every time the
Council considered the City's budget, they consider the possibility of raising the City's tax rate
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or lowering the City's tax rate or leaving it as it. He stated that they do that every year. He
stated that he did not believe that anyone claimed or that constituted a conflict of interest or
violation of ethics because he also happened to be a tax payer and would be affected by whatever
the tax rate was. Council Member Burdette stated that he did not find any error on the part of the
ERC and he did not think that they committed any errors in their deliberations. He stated that
while people may quarrel with their deliberations and may quarrel with the conclusions that they
came to, he did not feel that they were arbitrary or capricious or unreasonable.
MOTION: Upon a motion made by Council Member Burdette and seconded by Council
Member Moss, the Council voted six (6) "ayes" and zero (0) "nays, with Council
Member Burns absent, to deny the appeal in its entirety. The motion carried.
Council Member Hicks stated that she agreed with a lot of what Council Member
Burdette stated on the first piece about whether the ERC should be meeting. She stated that even
in the papers that Mr. Ashford had provided to the City Council there was information where he
stated that he had been waiting all of this time, 68 days after the original complaint. She stated
that her point was if the idea was to have the ERC meet then she would think that was what the
person would want and the person could not then decide, well, the people that I wanted to be
there could not be here so; therefore, I do not want them to hear my case. She stated that in any
given week it was very true that the City Council did not know who was going to be present on
the Council or who was going to hear whatever issues that were being presented.
Council Member Hicks stated on the second issue, she served on a number of difference
commissions and boards'that interested her, from Presbyterian Night Shelter which was in the
Council District that she represented to the Junior League, etc. She stated that all of those
agencies certainly formed the opinions that she had. She stated that as she said in August she felt
that this process needed to go forward today and there needed to be some resolution for both Mr.
Ashford and Mr. McBee and then also the Council Members. She added as she stated in August,
she still had a great concern about having to make decisions on fellow council members. She
stated that while she had the utmost respect for the folks that she worked with on a daily basis,
years from now there could be a Council that had to be in the same position that would not have
the same kind of kind of standards. She stated that the City Council had to vote on issues on a
weekly basis that deal with each other's Council Districts. She stated she had an earlier
conversation with Council Member Zimmerman about how the Texas State Legislature had to go
through this and also other entities. She added that she understood from City Attorney
Fullenwider that the ERC would be looking at a number of issues, for example, making it more
public and just a number of different issues. She stated that she felt it was something that needed
to be looked at again because she felt very uncomfortable being in this position where she was
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having to decide these issues, not only issues about her colleagues but also the fact that she was
not an attorney and she felt uncomfortable about making these decisions. She stated in these
three situations she did not feel that there was a conflict with Mr. Jordan or Mr. Scarth and she
did feel that the ERC should have met and made their decisions because that was what they were
charged to do. She stated that she felt that in the future when they had these situations, for
example, she had an ethics complaint filed against her and she would hate to have the City
Council in the position to have to deal with that. She added that she felt it put all of the City
Council in an unfair predicament. Council Member Hicks advised that she understood that the
City Attorney was looking at other cities to see how they deal with this and she requested that
they continue to look at this process. She stated that it had been a painful exercise for her
personally. She stated that they made difficult decisions all of the time. She stated that she was
a "no" vote earlier in the City Council meeting and Council Member Burdette voted against
something earlier in the day also. She stated that this just happens and she understood that. She
reiterated that when it came to especially someone's character and when the Council heard from
three (3) or four (4) attorneys already today, there were some concerns that she had. She asked
the City Attorney to look at what other cities are doing.
Mayor Moncrief indicated that he had the same conversation with the City Attorney. He
added that one of the things that he was informed of was that most of the cities, especially in the
larger cities in the State of Texas, have more involvement than the City of Fort Worth currently
does. He stated that their City Councils had more involvement and their ethics panels were
basically advisory panels that advised the Council and then the Council had the sole
responsibility. He added that he felt the City needed to look at that very closely and to look
closely at the issue of once the Council gave that authority up, it was gone. He stated that there
were pluses and minuses. He stated that if the City did the same thing that the state was doing,
was that sufficient and would it get the City where it needed to be. He added particularly with
some of the items that the City was going to have to address as one of the fastest major growing
cities.
Council Member Hicks stated that she had no idea that there had been members on the
ERC for 20 years. She stated that was a huge issue on the Council's part. Council Member
Hicks talked about the City's boards and commissions and that the Council was more engaged in
certain boards or committees than others, for example the Zoning Commission where the six -
year term rule was invoked. She stated that the Council needed to be more engaged when it
came to the issue of ethics and she stated that perhaps the answer was for each City Council
Member to have an appointee on this committee. She added that she did not know what the
answer was; but she asked that moving forward that a City Council workshop session be
scheduled in order to see what other cities in the State of Texas have done. She also referenced
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Mayor Moncrief s expertise on this ethics issue at the state legislative level. She reiterated that
she did not know what the answer was at this time; however, it was something that needed to be
looked at. She also requested that the new City Attorney Fullenwider deal with all of these
issues and perhaps the answer was that the City Council needed to be a lot more engaged in these
issues and she added that perhaps the City would be facing more of these in the future. She
stated that she wanted to see everything laid out on the table and see all of the proposals and see
what was going to work so that everyone felt like they had a place at the table, including the
citizens.
Mayor Moncrief stated that when the Council was trying to recruit citizens to serve on
this panel, folks did not line up. He stated that it was difficult to get the right people to agree to
be willing to go the extra mile. He stated that the members have worked hard, those in the past
as well as the new members.
Mayor Moncrief continued the agenda to the next case.
City Council Hearing on Appeal of Findings
by the City's Ethics Review Committee in
Cause No. 2010 -03, a Complaint Filed
Against Council Member Danny Scarth by
Fort Worth Resident Louis A. McBee (Agenda Item 3)
Overview of Previous Hearings /Findings —
City Attorney (Agenda Item 3 -a)
City Attorney Fullenwider spoke before the Council on Case No. 2010 -03. She advised
that the complaint was filed by Fort Worth resident Louis McBee on July 15, 2010. She stated
that the complaint alleged that Council Member Danny Scarth had a substantial interest in a gas
lease on his residential property with Chesapeake with a royalty interest exceeding $2,500 and
thus should have disclosed that fact and not have participated in the following matter:
A vote on M & C G -16921 on June 22, 2010, which involved a high impact gas drilling
waiver sought by Chesapeake Operating, Inc. She added that the complaint alleged that the
action violated Sections 2 -237 and 2 -239 of the Code of Ethics.
City Attorney Fullenwider provided a timeline of the hearings on this case as follows:
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City Attorney (cont'd) (Agenda Item 3 -a)
September 24, 2010: Ethics Review Committee (ERC) continued the case in
order to receive a report from an appraisal expert regarding the value of the
royalty interest.
December 8, 2010: ERC Hearing a quorum of three (3) members were present
(Hortenica Laguna and Rebecca Lucas were not present). ERC heard evidence
and considered arguments of the complainant and respondents.
City Attorney Fullenwider presented the ERC Findings as follows:
■ None of the actions cited by the complainant violated the "substantial interest"
provisions of the Code because no evidence was presented at the hearing that
Council Member Scarth owned any interest in any of the wells subject to the
high impact waiver sought by Chesapeake in M & C G16291; and
■ Council Member Scarth's royalty interest did not exceed $2,500 in value on
June 22, 2010 and that values attributable to royalty interest of persons related
to Scarth in the first degree of affinity are not added to or cumulated with
Scarth's royalty interest.
City Attorney Fullenwider reviewed the appeal filed by Louis McBee on December 17,
2010 in which he alleged that the ERC committee error and demonstrated prejudice by:
1. Misconstruing the provisions of the Ethics Code as it relates to substantial
interest in business property and /or real property;
2. Being arbitrary and capricious in its deliberations by ignoring provisions
of Chapter 171 of the Texas Local Government Code and numerous
Attorney General Opinions that he submitted into evidence;
3. Participating in ex -parte communications regarding the charges filed, in
violation of Section 2.250 of the Code of Ethics;
4. Demonstrating prejudicial behavior in ignoring the City Council's
directives to require the participation of Ms. Rebecca Lucas and Ms.
Hortencia Laguna.
City Attorney Fullenwider explained that the City Council options in the hearing where
to determine whether:
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City Attorney (cont'd) (Agenda Item 3 -a)
1. The ERC was prejudiced in its deliberations;
2. New evidence is available that was not considered by the ERC; or
3. The ERC committed some error in its deliberations.
City Attorney Fullenwider explained that if the Council determined the answer was "no ",
then they should deny the appeal in its entirety. She added that if they determined the answer
was "yes ", then they should hold an evidentiary hearing, either by the City Council or a hearing
officer.
Argument by Complainant — Louis McBee (Agenda Item 3 -b)
Mr. Louis McBee, P. O. Box 24247, Fort Worth, Texas 76124 -1247 and 2320 Oakland
Boulevard, Suite 11, Fort Worth, Texas 76103, spoke before the City Council regarding his
appeal. He expressed appreciation to Council Member Hicks for her comments. He stated that
there were a couple points of interest. He stated that first of all on the issue of whether the
airport board was an appointed commission or not, he directed the Council that they would also
have to look at the Zoning Commission, the Planning Commission and the Board of Adjustments
and ask themselves whether those were appointed offices and whether they took the oath -of-
office for this City. He stated that if they looked into that the answer would be "absolutely." He
stated that they were bound by that oath and they could be discharged for violating it.
Mr. McBee stated that indifference to comments made by City Attorney Fullenwider, he
advised that the City Council was not the final step in these hearings. He stated that Chapter 171
of the Texas Local Government Code made violations a criminal offense and so the next step
would be to pursue a criminal case. He stated that all of their complaints were based upon one
simple fact.
Council Member Hicks interjected with a question of how these cases were criminal.
City Attorney Fullenwider stated that Mr. McBee was referring to the State's Ethics Code
and this does would not apply to the City's Ethics Code. She reiterated that the City Council was
the final determining body for the City's Ethics Code Ordinance.
Mr. McBee interjected that there was the issue that could easily be state charges for
violation of Chapter 171 because Chapter 171 actually was written for municipal bodies. He
added that it was not for state -wide bodies, which was found in a different section of the Code.
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Argument by Complainant — Louis McBee (cont'd) (Agenda Item 3 -b)
Mr. McBee indicated that he had passed out some additional information to the City
Council when Mr. Ashford was speaking. He stated that he felt those issues were important and
he advised that he probably should have gotten up and spoken when Mr. Ashford was speaking.
He stated that if the Council did not get past this definition of what "is" then there was no point
to go to the next case that they need to be talking about because he already knew what the City
Council's decision was going to be regardless of the information that he presented.
Mr. McBee stated that first of all he provided copies of the letters from Ms. Laguna and
Ms. Lucas and when they were presented, when they were faxed and when they were dated. He
stated that they also had in front of them a timeline of those events. He stated that on July 16,
2010, he filed his original complaint. He stated that on August 5, 2011, the old ERC met to
determine a hearing date, the validity of the charges and to select an attorney for the ERC. He
stated that on August 19, 2011, the Mayor called the two (2) existing members of the ERC and
told them they no longer had a job. He stated that he had no reason to believe that those two (2)
ladies would write a letter to the City of Fort Worth lying about what they were told. On
August 23, 2010, Mr. McBee stated that Reverend Daniels did not call the City. He stated that
the City called Reverend Daniels. He stated that there is a letter on file that would indicate that
on August 23, 2010, and supposedly he resigned as a result of that telephone call. Mr. McBee
stated that the City wrote a letter to him thanking him for his time and his conversation of that
day and he was no longer on the ERC. Mr. McBee stated that on the very next day the City
Council considered and reviewed the changes in the Ethics Ordinance which was less than 24
hours after they knew that Reverend Daniels was not going to be on the ERC. He stated that in
his view it made the entire agenda in violations of the Open Meetings Act because it could not
have been posted 36 hours or whatever prior. Mr. McBee stated that on August 24, 2010, the
City Council adopted the changes to the Ethics Ordinance and then on September 7, 2010, Ms.
Lucas and Ms. Laguna faxed again the information to the City telling the City that as far as they
were concerned that they were no longer on this ERC regardless of what the City Council or City
staff thought they were. He stated that his reason for that was that the Council had plenty of time
to act on this and make the committee right prior to these hearings. He stated that he did file
with the ERC the three (3) members and the City Secretary his objections to that meeting as
being illegal and completely out of order. He stated that it was also in writing with the City.
Mr. McBee stated that his original hearing on his original complaint was held 70 days
after he filed it. He repeated the number again. He stated that the reason that was important and
he added that quite frankly he did not appreciate splitting hairs on part of the ordinance and then
literally defining other parts of it because it was convenient to the City or convenient to the
people who were a part of this process. He stated that when no preliminary hearing was
required, the final hearing should have been held as expeditiously as possible following the tiling
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Argument by Complainant — Louis McBee (cont'd) (Agenda Item 3 -b)
of the complaint but in no event should it have been held more than 30 days after the filing of the
complaint. He stated that the entire hearing was out of order. He added that City staff should
have come back to them and asked them what they wanted to do. He stated once again he was
not going to sit up there and waste his breath when he thought he already knew what the Council
was going to do. He stated that he would promise the Council that he was not dropping it and by
this time this coming Friday, there would be complaints 2011 -01, 2011 -02, 2011 -03 and 2011-
04. He told the Council to be ready.
Mr. McBee completed his comments.
Argument by Person Complained Against —
Attorney Don Herrmann Representing
Council Members Scarth and Jordan
(Agenda Item 3 -c)
Mayor Moncrief recognized Don Herrmann, the attorney representing Council Members
Scarth and Jordan.
Mr. Don Herrmann, attorney with Kelly Hart & Hallman LLP, spoke before the Council
and indicated that he did not intend to address the complainant's comments on either the make-
up of the ERC or the timing of the hearing. He stated that this appeared to be more in the arena
of the City Attorney and perhaps Mr. Daniel as the ERC's counsel.
Mr. Herrmann stated that Mr. McBee choose not to tell the Council what his real
complaint was about; however, he wanted to do so because in doing so it would help everyone
understand how Mr. McBee misperceived the interpretation of the Ethics Code and why that
misperception lead him to the wrong conclusions in so many of these matters. Mr. Herrmann
stated that when Mr. McBee filed his complaint in this incident which complained about Council
Member's Scarth vote on an M & C that had to do with a variance from distance standards on a
particular gas well pad site for Chesapeake; that Mr. McBee did not really tell anyone what the
basis for his complaint was as it related to the disqualifying circumstance that he was going to
rely on. Mr. Hemnann stated that it became obvious later that he was complaining that Council
Member Scarth had an oil and gas lease on his residence in east Fort Worth and Mr. McBee
contended that the oil and gas lease created a disqualifying circumstance. Mr. Herrmann stated
that Mr. McBee still did not tell anyone whether it was disqualifying because it was an interest in
a business entity or whether it was disqualifying because it was an interest in real estate. He
stated that he did not believe that Mr. McBee understood the distinction between the two. Mr.
Herrmann stated that in Section 2 -239 and its interplay with Section 2 -237, there could be a
disqualification if the person owned an interest in a business entity if that ownership interest was
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10% of the business or has a value greater than $5,000.00, or if that business interest generated
income that was greater than 10% of the Council Member's income for the previous year. He
added that he agreed with Council Member Burdette that the lease of minerals under real
property that was owned frankly was not an interest in a business entity. Mr. Herrmann stated
there was with respect to real estate a different test. He stated the test was that there was a
disqualifying circumstance if the value of the real estate interest exceeds $2,500.00 and the real
estate interest was directly involved in the action being considered by the City Council. Mr.
Herrmann stated that in this instance, the ERC commissioned an independent appraisal of Mr.
Scarth's residential oil and gas lease and the appraiser concluded that the lease had a value of
$1,500.00 or less and therefore did not reach the $2,500.00 requirement that was necessary to be
a disqualifying event. He stated that furthermore, it was clear that Mr. Scarth's residence and the
operations that were pertinent to it were not impacted by the M & C in question. He stated there
was no direct economic or unique economic impact on that real property. He stated that so under
Section 2.239, Mr. McBee's complaint failed in both analyses but particularly the most pertinent
one which had to do with the real estate interest. He stated as the City Attorney observed, Mr.
McBee had complained about some ex parte communications and he added that he did not know
anything about that and he had apparently chosen not to address that issue with the City Council.
Mr. Herrmann concluded his remarks.
Mayor Moncrief opened the floor for questions.
City Council Determinations /Decisions
(Agenda Item 3 -d)
City Attorney Fullenwider stated like in the previous case, Council Member Scarth relied
on the advice of the City Attorney David Yett when he proceeded to vote on this case. She
added what she failed to point out in the other case was that under Section 2 -256 (a) what was
appealed to the City Council was whether the ERC's determination whether or not a violation of
Division 1 had occurred. She stated that the makeup of the committee and whether or not there
should have been five (5) full members there was not a violation of Division 1. She added that
she wanted to clarify that for the City Council. She added the City Council had taken great
latitude to hear those arguments from both Mr. Ashford and Mr. McBee; however, it was not a
violation of Division 1 and was really not an appealable matter before the City Council.
Council Member Hicks requested clarification from the City Attorney regarding
conversations with Ms. Lucas and Ms. Laguna. She pointed out that they were stating that they
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were removed from this board; however, she wondered if City Attorney David Yett had called
them and told them this was not true. City Attorney Fullenwider stated that she could not speak
to the conversations that he had with them. She indicated that she did know that they were told
by Mr. Yett that the Mayor did not have the authority to remove them from the board and it was
clear from the City Council's action on that City Council date that they had intended them to be
part of the committee to hear the remaining hearings. Council Member Hicks interjected that
was because the Council Members only appointed three (3) members to the ERC.
Council Member Zimmerman stated that in hearing both sides of this case, it was clear to
him that it had not been proved that a substantial amount of income came from any of the actions
that were taken. He stated that it was pointed out also, however not relevant in his opinion, that
there were only three (3) members of the board on that day. He stated that it was the intent of the
City Council to have five (5) members there, but it was not an assurance. He stated that the City
Council wanted those other two (2) there especially because they had been a party to the hearings
before so the City Council wanted that continuity brought forward. He stated they elected not to
do that and the City Council had no control over that. He stated, therefore, based upon those
reasons, he would moved to deny the appeal in its entirety.
MOTION: A motion was made by Council Member Zimmerman and seconded by Council
Member Burdette, to deny the appeal in its entirety.
Council Member Burdette stated the whole basis of the ethics code was to address
situations where in this case a Council Member might be considering a matter and voting on a
matter and may had motivations that were reasonably deemed to be contrary to the motivations
which would guide his or her vote as a member of the City Council and representing the voters
of the City. He felt this was basically what the whole focus was about and what everyone should
be concerned about was what might be motivating someone to take action. He stated that he did
not think in this case Mr. Scarth's vote on a high impact well site regarding Chesapeake would or
was motivated by any interest that he may have in the minerals that he had under his home. He
stated as already pointed out by Mr. Herrmann and he agreed, he did not think that interest in that
real estate reached the level of exceeding $2,500.00. He added certainly the minerals on his
home or properties and the wells from which those royalties might flow were not effected by or
involved in the vote that Mr. Scarth took on that particular Chesapeake case at that time.
Council Member Burdette stated he felt it was clear as he had stated earlier today that simply
owning minerals and leasing to a gas company who in affect had been hired by a person as the
lessor to use their experience and their money to produce a person's minerals. He stated that he
did not feel that it constituted a substantial interest in that company. He stated in this case it
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would be a substantial interest in Chesapeake as a corporate entity. He stated he did not think
the vote in G -16921 by Mr. Scarth rose to a violation under the City's Code.
Council Member Burdette indicated that when the City Council talked about motivations
he was a little bit concerned that this case had not been raised, but he was going to raise it. He
stated that he was a little bit concerned about the complainant's motivation in this case because
as he recalled this particular complainant had filed for office and ran against Mr. Scarth in
seeking a seat on this Council at lease once and maybe more than once. He stated that he had
some concerns here about the motivation for the bringing of this case. He stated that he had not
heard from either complainant today any suggestions about where or how this should go further
in the event that an ethics violation were to be found these cases. He stated that he did not know
whether the motivation in bringing these complaints was to seek such a finding and then allege
or urge that the Council Member should be removed from the Council or the Council Member
should be fired or the Council Member should serve time in jail. He added he was just not quite
clear what the motivation was here but he certainly did question it in this case. He stated with
that said, he would second the motion.
With no further discussion, Mayor Moncrief called for the question.
VOTE ON THE MOTION: The Council voted six (6) "ayes" and zero (0) "nays ", with
Council Member Burns absent, in favor of the motion. The
motion carried.
Mayor Moncrief moved to the next agenda item.
City Council Hearing on Appeal of Findings
by the City's Ethics Review Committee in
Cause No. 2010 -04, a Complaint Filed
Against Council Members Jungus Jordan
and Danny Scarth by Fort Worth Resident
Louis A. McBee (Agenda Item 4)
Overview of Previous Hearings /Findings —
City Attorney (Agenda Item 4 -a)
City Attorney Fullenwider advised the complaint had been filed by Mr. Louis McBee on
September 23, 2010. She explained that the complaint alleged that Council Member Jungus
Jordan and Council Member Danny Scarth had a substantial interest in Chesapeake and XTO,
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respectively, and thus should have disclosed that fact and not have participated in the following
matters:
The August 19, 2010, appeal to the City Council to reverse the June 24,
2010 decision of the ERC finding that three (3) members of the Air
Quality Study Committee violated the Code of Ethics by their service on
the committee.
City Attorney Fullenwider advised that Council Members Jordan and Scarth relived on
the advice of the City Attorney David Yett and participated in that vote.
City Attorney Fullenwider advised of the timeline for the hearing as follows:
December 8, 2010: Ethics Review Committee (ERC) hearing was held. She
stated a quorum of five (5) members were present (new appointed members). The
ERC heard evidence and considered arguments of the complainant and
respondents.
Ms. Fullenwider advised of the ERC findings as follows:
None of the actions cited by the complainant violated the Code of Ethics because
no evidence was presented at the hearing to establish that there was a connection
between the votes by Council Members Jordan and Scarth on August 19 2010,
reversing an ERC decision and Council Members Jordan's and Scarth's respective
interest in Chesapeake and XTO.
City Attorney Fullenwider explained that Mr. McBee filed an appeal on December 17,
2010, which alleged that the ERC committed error and demonstrated prejudice by:
• Misconstruing the provisions of the Ethics Code as it relates to substantial
interest in business property and /or real property;
• Was arbitrary and capricious in its deliberations by ignoring provisions of
Chapter 171 of the Texas Local Government Code and numerous Attorney
General Opinions that he had submitted into evidence at the hearing.
• Participated in ex -parte communications regarding the charges filed, in
violation of Section 2 -250 of the Code of Ethics.
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City Attorney Fullenwider advised that the City Council options would be to determine
whether:
1. The ERC was prejudiced in its deliberations;
2. New evidence was available that was not considered by the ERC; or
3. The ERC committed some error in its deliberations.
City Attorney Fullenwider advised that if the Council determined "no ", then they should
deny the appeal in its entirety. She added that if they determined "yes ", then they should hold an
evidentiary hearing, either by the City Council or a hearing officer.
Argument by Complainant — Mr. Louis McBee (Agenda Item 4 -b)
Mayor Moncrief recognized Mr. Louis McBee, P. O. Box 24247, Fort Worth, Texas
76124 -1247, to speak at this time.
Mr. McBee stated that better than address this case specifically, he stated that he wanted
to state briefly that it was fairly apparent that he and Mr. Ashford were not going to get a fair
hearing not in this city anyway. He stated that the City Council could not even follow their own
process because they were supposed to be discussing whether or not the process was followed
properly. He stated he had already pointed out to the Council that the meeting was held 70 days
after notice. He stated that the City's ordinance stated 30 days. He stated that the Council had
not even addressed that issue and now there were Council Members who were not only
addressing his motives, they are addressing the guilt or innocence of the parties charged without
an evidentiary hearing. Mr. McBee stated that was all he had to say about it and he added that he
was quite frankly embarrassed.
This concluded Mr. McBee's comments.
Argument by Persons Complained Against -
Attorney Don Herrmann Representing
Council Members Scarth and Jordan
(Agenda Item 4 -c)
Mayor Moncrief recognized Mr. Don Herrmann, attorney with the Law Firm of Kelly
Hart & Hallman LLP, representing Council Members Scarth and Jordan.
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Council Members Searth and Jordan (Agenda Item 4 -c)
Mr. Herrmann stated that just as the ERC had concluded that XTO and Chesapeake were
not directly involved in the selection of the members of the Air Quality Study Committee, it
concluded in this instance that XTO and Chesapeake were not directly involved in the appeal of
the earlier challenge to the selection of those people. He stated it was the same logic, same
result, perfectly consistent and absolutely correct.
Attorney Herrmann completed his comments
(Mr. McBee left the meeting at 3:35 p.m.)
City Council Determinations /Decisions
(Agenda Item 4 -d)
Council Member Zimmerman directed a question to Mr. McBee. Mayor Moncrief
advised that Mr. McBee had left the meeting. Mr. Zimmerman stated that he had no questions.
Council Member Espino stated that just so the record is clear, he wanted to make a
couple of comments. He stated that too often in public debate and discourse in government and
public service because folks disagree with folks on decisions that they make, negative
conservations, negative comments are described to folks. He added everyone that served in
elective office does it in the best interest, he believed, of the folks that they were representing.
He stated that in any political process people were not going to agree with City Council in
decisions that they make. He pointed out that the City Council dealt with a lot of tough issues.
He stated that he was concerned and he directed the comments to City Attorney Fullenwider and
stated that when the City looked at the ethics review of the re- litigation and similar issues. He
stated that in the law there was res judicata, collateral estoppel and criminal law double jeopardy.
He hoped as the City went forward the City had a process for that. He stated certainly the
constitution required due process, which meant notice and an opportunity to be heard. He stated
thorough out the entire difficult issue of developing the policy for urban gas drilling, there have
been countless public hearings and public meetings, citizen's input and obviously it was a very
tough issue. He stated the question was how does the City determine good public policy for a
Barnett Shale gas plate that had so many different interests involved. He stated from the
neighborhood residents that may not want the gas well near them to the royalty interest owners
that want their royalties to the City officials and Council Members trying to come up with an
ordinance that best balances all of those competing interests. He stated that it was most
unfortunate that on these tough issues that some times these issues become personal. He stated
that these hearings were difficult for all of the Council because ethics complaints remained
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against fellow colleagues that the Council Members worked with and that the Council tried, he
believes, in good faith to give a good and fair hearing to everyone. He added that when there
was a different interpretation, when someone disagreed with findings of fact by an ERC and
disagreed with a decision of this Council as the appeal entity and subscribed a personal motivate,
he found that quite disturbing.
MOTION: A motion was made by Council Member Espino and seconded by Council
Member Zimmerman, to deny the appeal in its entirety.
Mayor Moncrief stated that he felt Council Member Espino's comments expressed a lot
of how the rest of the City Council Members felt. He stated that it was a tough place to find as
City Council Member, but he pointed out that the Council Members wanted this job and it was a
part of the job and it was up to the Council to listen to the attorneys, up to them to listen to the
citizens and decide what they think was right and what they thought was not right. He added that
it was unfortunate that this had become so personal and so divisive. He stated at the same time,
he thought that the City had citizens like the current panel and like those that have served in the
past who were willing to step in and serve as referees and to take the law literally and what that
law said and give the Council their advise, their counsel. He stated that until that process
changed, he felt it was up to the Council to listen and he, like all of the Council, wanted them to
be able to move in a responsible and positive manner through this urban drilling challenge the
City had. He stated that as everyone knew it was not going to get any easier than it was today, it
just won't. Mayor Moncrief thanked each of the Council Members and indicated he knew it was
difficult. He added as Council Member Hicks had stated earlier, it was tough to sit here and rule
as a body on those you serve with and it was tough to try and make citizens who complained
understand that what the City Council was doing was the best job that they knew how.
Council Member Zimmerman stated that he felt it was very important to emphasize here
too when all of these cases came before the Council, they sought the advise of the City Attorney
and acted on that advise. He stated that he did not know what else the Council could do but to
take as gospel what the City Attorney was telling them. He stated that he understood the
concerns that the plaintiffs had in this process and yet the Council kept hearing people wanting to
gloss over the fact that the Council did their very best efforts with their very best intentions with
the guidance that the City Council had. He stated that in the case of this complaint what he was
going to ask Mr. McBee was at what point before today had Mr. McBee brought up the 70 -day
concern with the Council acting on his appeal. Council Member Zimmerman pointed out that
the three (3) members from the industry that were on the Air Quality Study Committee were
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again approved by the City Attorney. He added, however, before the committee got to the vote,
those three (3) people recused themselves from the vote, so they really had no say in how that
vote came out. He stated the real key was the tools that the City Council had were the ones that
they have got to act with. Council Member Zimmerman stated he felt that the Council all agreed
that the ordinance for the ethics needed to be revised and relooked at very closely. He stated that
it should be a tool to ensure that the City Council all act in good jurisprudence and that was the
only tool that it should do.
At this time, Council Member Scarth requested to speak before the City Council in his
position of a person being complained against.
Council Member Scarth stated he wanted to speak up on behalf of the process. He stated
that he felt that the City had some very serious issues with the way the ordinance existed today
and how it was carried out. He stated at the same time it was the ordinance that the City had
today. He added it was the process that the City had today and he thought that all of the
members, the original three (3) that they started with and certainly the five (5) members that the
City had today have all attempted to do their job the very best they could within the way the
system worked. He did think that unfortunately that some folks have tried to use the ethics
process as an appeal process for decisions of the City Council not necessarily on decisions of
ethics or judgment of ethics. He stated in the last case where he was the subject, it was very
obvious when he discussed it with the City Attorney that the property that he owned was not
even in the well site or within the well site or any of the leases that the Council was voting on.
He pointed out that alone meant there was no problem with him voting on that issue. He spoke
about obtaining information by an independent appraiser on the value of his mineral rights to
make sure the real estate did not exceed more than $2,500.00 even if it had been in the area and
the result was that it did not so it obviously failed on both of those counts.
Council Member Scarth stated obviously the complainants' argument focused on the
process itself where the members were supposed to be five (5) instead of three (3) even though
the ordinance allowed for a quorum to be three. He spoke about the issues raised on the time line
and the added confusion with the complainants trying to complicate the issue and it made it look
as if the City Council as the appeal body was doing something wrong rather than focusing on the
very simple facts of the case which was did he do something that was ethical or unethical and
obviously he relied on the opinion and advise of the City Attorney and followed the law in a very
simple manner. He stated that what he did not want to happen was the process of reviewing the
ethics ordinance by the City Council to be considered irrelevant or strictly political or become
less than it was because it had been misused by some other people. He stated in other words at
some point in the future the City Council might have some serious ethical issues that they have
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to deal with on the City Council. He stated some one or some future Council Member or
somebody could actually do something that was truly unethical in an attempt to make themselves
more wealthy or to help some friend or do something that was truly wrong and the Council might
have people say that it was just a political process, just somebody just trying to one up somebody
else because today and through the last several months this process had been abused and misused
by unfortunately some Fort Worth citizens because they were unhappy with policies and
decisions made by the City Council. He stated his appeal to all of the Council was to not let
what they have been going through for the last number months with this whole process let the
City Council believe that ethics were not important. He added that they were and the daily
examination of every vote that the City Council made and every decision that the City Council
made as City Council Members had to be made looking in the mirror with full light and saying
were we doing the right thing and we have to continue to rely on the good advice from the City
Attorney. He stated that they needed to continue to rely on their good ethics and their moral
values to make good decisions no matter how the process was misused or abused by others in an
attempt to make a political point or appeals from the decision policies that have been made. He
stated that he appreciated the City Council Members taking this very seriously and trying to
make the very best decision that they could in this situation.
Mr. Ashford interrupted and requested to speak again before the City Council. Mayor
Moncrief indicated that Council Member Scarth spoke because he was the subject of the
complaint. Mayor Moncrief explained to him that this was not his case and he was not the
complainant in the case being heard.
After further discussion, Mayor Moncrief recognized Mr. Ashford to speak. He stated
that he had heard several people on the City Council talk about the abuse and it made him sound
like he was the bad guy and Mr. McBee was the bad guy. He stated that the true was he did not
know whether the City Council really did not know the law or that they just wanted to play
ignorant.
Mayor Moncrief interjected that comment was enough. He stated that if Mr. Ashford was
to stick to the item that was before the Council that was fine.
Mr. Ashford stated that he did not know. He read to the Council the state local code and
stated that it was cumulative with the City's Code. He stated that what the state said trumped
anything that the City says. He read Section 171.004 of the Texas Local Government Code, as
follows:
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"Affidavit and Abstention from Voting Required. (a) If a local public official has
a substantial interest in a business entity or in real property, the official shall file,
before a vote or decision on any matter involving the business entity or the real
property, an affidavit stating the nature and extent of the interest and shall abstain
from further participation in the matter if.
(1) in the case of a substantial interest in a business entity the action on
the matter will have a special economic effect on the business entity
that is distinguishable from the effect on the public; or......."
Mr. Ashford stated that if he had been allowed to proceed with his case, there was a
situation that was heard, with an Attorney General's opinion on it, which had to do with a City
Council person in Dallas regarding Love Field, the Wright Amendment. He stated that what the
opinion talked about was did it have an affect on the company that the Council person's husband
worked for. He stated that the husband worked for American Airlines. He added that the
question was could she vote on anything involving Love Field. He stated that the thing that she
had to decide and it was stated in the Attorney General's opinion was that she had to decide that
if it had a financial affect on American Airlines in her opinion, then she must abstain. He added
that there was no question about that. He stated that the Attorney General's opinion goes into
"directly" or "indirectly." Mr. Ashford stated that whether or not it had a financial affect on
American Airlines, he did not know.
Mr. Ashford stated that when the City Council voted on a gas drilling ordinance did it
have a financial effect on the drilling companies. He added that he did not feel that there was
any question about that. He stated that it was required that the individuals that have a substantial
interest not vote. Mr. Ashford spoke about comments made by Council Member Burdette
wherein he stated he did not see how the substantial interest applied. Mr. Ashford stated the
state put the limit on that, 10% of a person's income if it over a certain amount. He stated that
there were stipulations and he added that it was not a matter of judgment. He stated that it was
stated in the state laws. He pointed out that the City Council had not read the state laws.
Mayor Moncrief responded that the City Council had taken advice from the City
Attorney. He stated that this was what the Council had done and would continue to do. Mayor
Moncrief pointed out that there have been more affidavits filed with this Council than any
Council in the state.
Mr. Ashford stated that the Attorney General's opinion was the same as law unless it is
over turned by a legal court.
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Mayor Moncrief asked Mr. Ashford if he was an attorney. Mr. Ashford responded that
he was not but he could certainly read the laws. He could read what the Attorney General's
opinions said. He stated that he could read what the county manual said.
Mayor Moncrief asked Mr. Ashford if he had completed his comments. Mr. Ashford
indicated that he had completed his comments.
Mayor Moncrief pointed out that there was a motion, with a second, before the Council
Members.
Council Member Espino stated that Council Member Hicks had raised some very good
points earlier regarding the City's ordinance and he expressed his appreciation to her. He added
that it was a tough day for everyone but he did want to thanks Ms. Hick.
Council Member Hicks responded that she appreciated his comments. She added that she
debated whether she could stay in this process because of her concerns and frankly it was her
conversation with Mr. Zimmerman and Ms. Fullenwider. She added just because she had those
concerns did not mean she had some kind of fear about testifying or voting or whatever. She
pointed out everyone had different issues and disagreed about different issues. She stated that
the Council made difficult votes on a weekly basis. She stated that it disturbed her that some
how there was the impression that she was not stepping up to the plate. She stated that there
were other issues here that frankly have really bothered her. She stated that Council Member
Scarth talked about the fact that he felt that he had been abused. She stated that she too felt that
way right now. She stated that just because she asked these questions, that she was just the same
as any one else up here and she had the right to ask those questions. She pointed out that City
Attorney Fullenwider stated that the Code stated that she had to vote on these issues, so she was
accepting that. She stated that she had other attorneys tell her that she did not have to. Council
Member Hicks added that to question her character was deeply upsetting to her and she thought
after five (5) plus years of being here she had proven that she was willing to take tough votes.
Council Member Hicks stated she was deeply concerned about how this had gone down and she
did not appreciate some of the things that were stated about her earlier today and she felt they
were deeply unfair. She stated that Council Member Burdette voted against something earlier
today in the district that she represented and she did not hold that against him. She added that it
was his right to do. She stated that she voted against something earlier on ERP and that was her
right to do. Council Member Hicks stated if she raised concerns about the process, that was her
right to do. She stated that it was deeply concerning that there were folks that would come and
question her integrity and that was the way she felt today.
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City Council Determinations /Decisions (cont'd) (Agenda Item 4 -d)
Mayor Moncrief announced again that there was a motion, with a second, before the
Council to deny the appeal in its entirety.
VOTE ON THE MOTION: The Council voted six (6) "ayes" and zero (0) "nays ", with
Council Member Burns absent, in favor of the motion. The
motion carried.
Executive Session
(Agenda Item 5)
Mayor Moncrief advised that the Executive Session on the following item would not be
necessary: To seek the advice of its attorney, if necessary, concerning the subject Ethics
Complaints; such matters are exempt from public disclosure under Article X, Section 9 of the
Texas State Bar Rules, and in accordance with Texas Government Code, subchapter D, Section
551.071 (LEGAL).
This agenda item was passed over.
Adjournment
2011.
(Agenda Item 6)
Mayor Moncrief adjourned the meeting at 3:35 p.m. on Tuesday, February 15, 2011.
These minutes approved by the Fort Worth City Council on this the 5th day of April,
ATTEST:
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Marty Hendrix, C /MCC
City Secretary
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