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AGENDA
Pre-Council Conference
8:30 A. M. April 19, 1965
1 . Lake Worth Casino Ballroom Lease
(I.R. #723 and M&C C-482)
2. Proposed Sanitary Seller Service Agreement - Tarrant County
Water Supply Corporation (M&C C-488)
3. Sandy Lane Widening and Paving
(I.R. #717 - Held over from last week)
4. Angle Avenue Resurfacing
(M6C C-484 - Held over from last week)
5. Proposed Police and Fire Training Center
(I.R. #722)
6. Assessment Paving at 14 Locations in the Dunbar School Aram
(MW G-784)
7. Increase in Membership - Commisrcial Building Standards Commission
(I.R. #721)
S. Photograph of the City Council (Requested by the Ft. Worth
Star Telegram)
9. Other M6C's of April 19, 1965
10. Other Itar
PRE-COUNCIL CONFERENCE MINUTES
APRIL 19, 1965
Present: Late: Absent:
1 . Barr 1 . Shannon (Item 2) None
2 . Hoover
3 . Jones
4. Eagle
5 . Hamm
6 . Kemble
i . Stovall
8 . Mrs . Deen
I TEM Follow Up
I . Meeting of all Tarrant County Elected and Gene - see me re department.,
Appointed Municipal Officials and County personnel who should aLtlii
Officials
Mayor Barr called attention to a meeting to be
held at 6: 30, Tuesday, May 18th at the Round Up
Inn in the Will Rogers Center to which all 'Tarrant
County mayors and Council members and their staffs
and the County Commissioners have been invited to
discuss mutual programs and problems and the
possibility of establishing a permanent organization
such as a county-wide league of municipalities .
Barr asked that all Council members and as many key
city administrative personnel as possible plan to
attend this meeting.
2 . Casino Ballroom Lease Gene - follow up re admini -
stration of lease
The City Manager reported that the City had re-
negotiated the lease agreement with Corporate Jim - follow up re inventor•
Venture as the Council requested. The City Manager and transfer from Starctes
pointed out two corrections that should be made in to "syndicate"
the lease agreement as renegotiated: 1) section 3 -
the $3,060 figure indicated in parenthesis should
read $18,360; 2) section 9 - the word "if" in the
sixth line should be deleted . The City Manager asked
if there were any questions that the Council wished
to ask concerning the renegotiated lease agreement
and the concensus of the Council was to ratify the
lease agreement, and this action was taken at the
regular Council meeting.
3 . Proposed Sanitary Sewer Service Agreement - EIID - please follow up • 1i.
Tarrant County Water Supply Corporation
The City Manager inquired if any Council member
had questions regarding this proposed sanitary
sewer service agreement with the Tarrant County Water
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Supply Corporation . Councilman Hamm inquired if
the City had ever entered into contract with a
public corporation before. The City Manager
stated that the City presently has a water contract
with the same corporation. Councilman Hamm stated
that he did not think it was good business for the
City to contract with this public corporation, since
the corporation could go out of existence within
the 35-year contract arrangement, thereby leaving
the City with expenditures . Councilman Hamm stated
that he thought the municipalities affected by this
contract should co-sponsor or underwrite the
Tarrant Countv Water Supply Corporation . Mayor
Barr stated that he felt the Tarrant County Water
Supply Corporation was a quasi-governmental organi-
zation. The City Manager pointed out that the
corporation has no stock in private hands . The City
Manager further indicated that the membership of the
corporation Board consisted of mayors, councilmen,
and citizens from the municipalities receiving the
services outlined in the contract .
Councilman Hamm then inquired if the affected
municipalities in the Corporation had co-signed the
water contract that the City had with the Tarrant
County hater Supply Corporation, and if so, for what
reason. The City Manager answered thatthe City had
entered into contract with the affected municipality
in this Tarrant County Water Supply Corporation
primarily because of public relations . At this
point, the City Manager further pointed out that the
cities involved have an approval time problem in-
volving this particular contract due to a nearly
lapsed initial bid period (end of April) .
Councilman Hoover inquired if these cities did
sell water outside their city limits . The City
Manager said yes, but stated that those cities are
currently serving some citizens outside their city
limits in unincorporated areas .
Councilman Hoover referred to a revised survey
prepared for the City by Rady and Associates,
approved by the City Council on October 2, 1962.
Mr. Hoover pointed out that this survey prepared by
Mr . Rady indicated that the minimum size for the
Big Fossil trunk sewer should be 46 inches. On the
basis of this survey, Councilman Hoover maintained
that the City should require the pipeline involved
in this contract with the Tarrant County Water Supply
Corporation to be at least a minimum of 42 inches in
size, which according to Councilman Hoover would cost
approximately $3 to $6 more per running foot . The
City Manager indicated that the cities in the Tarrant
County Water Supply Corporation would agree to the
installation of a larger pipe probably only if Fort
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Worth would absorb the difference in the increased
cost. The City Manager stated that he would be glad
to revamp the contract according to the Council 's
desires, and asked if the City Council would be
willing; at this time to absorb the additional costs
involved with the installation of a 42 inch pipe as
compared to a 36 inch as outlined in the contract
arrangement . Councilman Kamm and Councilman Hoover
indicated that they did not think it feasible for
the City to commit themselves for this expenditure
at this time.
Mayor Barr inquired of the other Councilmen as to
who would stand to benefit by the increase of the
pipe size . Councilman Hoover replied that the City
of Fort Worth would be benefited by the increase in
size of the pipe, but that the whole nature of the
contract was being made to benefit the Tarrant
County Water Supply Corporation. The City Manager
reported that the contract is favorable to the City
of Fort Worth in that it assists in paying for
sewerage tacilities of the City of Fort Worth and
by limiting pollution of area streams and rivers .
Councilman Hamm stated that he felt the cities
involved in the Tarrant County Water Supply Corp-
oratiun should 1) build the lines according to
our capacity, 2) should become undersigners of the
contract, and, 3) should provide a guarantee that
the City of Fort Worth would be able to obtain
access to transport sewerage across their property
at a later needed time. Mayor Barr indicated that
he felt increase in pipe size would be asking the
cities to guarantee a load which we cannot at this
time foresee .
Councilman Hoover said that we paid Mr . Rady as
a consultant to prepare estimates on this problem
for the City, and thinks the City should abide by
the findings of the survey.
Mayor Barr pointed out that if we do request the
cities to build the lines at a size beneficial to
the City of Fort Worth that we Would have to guarantee
them some return on their investment for the larger
line .
Mr. Hardy, Water Department Director, reported to
the City Council that the Big Fossil Creek drainage
area would be served by this improvement during its
initial development which has not at this time begun,
and stated that this agreement would make possible
the elimination of one sewer system lift station and
would reduce the load on two Corporation treatment
plants .
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Councilman Jones inquired if it would not be
possible to ask the cities involved in the Tarrant
County Water Supply Corporation to enforce this
contract and that during the next 20 years the
City of Fort Worth and the cities involved in the
Tarrant County Water Supply Corporation could
renegotiate to establish a package plant cost if
expansion is needed in this area.
Councilman Shannon stated that 1) he wants
the cities to endorse the contract, and, 2)
he wants to build a larger line than that
stipulated in the Mayor and Council Communication
C-488, with the City of Fort Worth sharing the cost
of this increase in pipe sire when it is needed
for the City's use .
Mayor Barr inquired of the City Attorney if the
corporation should be entitled "Public" or "Quasi-
Governmental" The City Attorney replied that the
corporation should be classified as "Quasi-Govern-
mental ." The Mayor further asked the City Attorney
if the cities would be liable under the existing
contract . The City Attorney replied that the cities
would be liable in his opinion. Mayor Barr inquired
of the City Attorney if the requests for the cities
to endorse the contract with the Tarrant County Water
Supply Corporation would be an unreasonable request .
The City Attorney indicated that in his opinion he
would not consider it an unreasonable request . Mayor
Barr asked the City Attorney if he considered this
contract to fully protect the City of Fort Worth .
The City Attorney replied that he did consider the
contract a good one that would fully protect the City
of Fort Worth .
Councilman Hoover stated that if the Tarrant County
Water Supply Corporation were to dissolve, the only
coat we would collect or recover would be the treatment
costs . Councilman Hamm stated that in the event the
corporation were to dissolve, it would not be politically
feasible to cut off the sanitary sewer services rendered
to the cities . Councilman Jones inquired of the City
Attorney if the corporation could create a future debt .
The City Attorney replied that the corporation could
through an appropriation ordinance create a future debt .
Mayor Barr requested of the Council Members an
indication as to whether they would approve the contract
as it currently is, or with revisions . Mayor Barr,
Councilmen Jones, Kemble, Stovall, Eagle, and Mrs . Deen
indicated that they would approve the contract as it
currently stands, with the addition of the condition that
the cities undersign or co-sponsor the contract. Council-
men Hamm, Shannon, and Hoover indicated they would not
approve the contract as it currently is . Councilmen Hamm,
Shannon, and Hoover wanted 1) the other cities to co-sign
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the contract, 2) a larger pipe line, and Council -
man Hanun wanted the cities involved in the Tarrant
County Water Supply Corporation to guarantee the
City of. Fort Worth the right in the future of access
for installation of sanitary sewerage facilities to
meet the City of Fort Worth's needs .
At regular Council meeting, Council deferred action
on the service agreement for one week and requested
the Cite Manager to renegotiate the contract .
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