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PRE-COUNCIL CONFERENCE
8.30 A�M., May 3, 1965
1) Attendance at U. S. Conference of Mayors - Mayer Barr
2) Group Insurance for City Employees (M&C C-491 - held over from
last week)
3) Corporation Court Report - Council Courts Oommittee
4) Use of Coliseum for Professional Ice Hockey (I.R, #724 - hold
over from last week)
5) Eighth Avenue Paving (M&C G- 792)
6) Paving Improvements at 17 Locations on the North Side
(M&C C-498)
7) Westland Water Transmission Main (M&C C-497)
8) Report on Horse Lot at 3008 Bright Street (I.R. #728)
9) Other M&C's of May 3, 1965
10) Other Items
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PRE-COUNCIL CONFERENCE MINUTES
MAY 3, 11)6',
Present . Late: Abount :
1 . Barr 7. Stovall (Item 1 ) Jones
2 . Eagle 8. Hoover (Item 4)
3. Kemble
4. Shannon
5. Hamm
6. Mrs . Deen
I t e m Follow-Up
1 . Attendance at U.S. Conference of Mayors NAN
The Mayor reported to the City Council the upcoming
U.S . Conference of Mayors to be held in St.Louis from
May 29 thrii June 2 and stated he would attend if desired
ry the Council . The Council agreed that the Mayor should
attend as the representative of the City, and a motion to
send the Mayor to the Conference was approved in the
regular Council meeting.
2 . Group Insurance for City Employees (M6rC C-491) EHD - prepare I .R. transmitting
data on Blue Cross School 's Plan.
The City Manaver inquired if any Council Members
had questions regarding the proposed group insurance
plan for City employees in addition to those asked
last week. Councilman Shannon stated that he desired
more time to study the proposal , approximately two
more weeks . Councilman Flamm indicated lie, too, would
like to hold action on this proposal for another weer
The Consensus of the Council was to hold the proposal
for at least one more week .
Councilman Stovall inquired of the Personnel Di-
rector if this proposal was held up for at least another
two weeks , would it affect the cost to the City. The
Personnel Director replied that no cost problem would be
encountered by withholding action4on this policy for at
least two more weeks . Councilman Stovall inquired if
the present policy the City has with Aetna would cover
City employees until the proposed policy is acted upon.
The Personnel Director replied that the existing Aetna
policy would cover City employees until action is taken
by the Council on the proposed plan.
Councilman Stovall also requested comparable infor-
mation on the proposed plan for the City of Fort Worth
and that plan recently adopted by the Fort Worth Inde-
peudent School District .
Councilman Stovall inquired of the Personnel Di-
rector if Aetna would return to the City the unused
premium funds, less retention. The Personnel Director
replied that it would take approximately one to one and
one-half years , but the unused premium funds would be
returned to the City.
3. Corporation Court Report - Council Courts BATEMAN - please follow cep on lease
Committee with County.
Councilman Stovall inquired if any Council Members
had questions regarding; the Corporation Court Report.
Mayor Barr inquired what kind ot action would be required
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on this report. Councilman Stovall replied that
a change in ordinance would be necessary and that
Council approval of the recommendations regarding
the new 2-year lease arrangement and the conver-
sion of the 1st floor court room into 2 court rooms
was required.
Mayor Barr requested that the recommendations
of the Court 's Committee regarding the Corporation
Court's operating procedures be held over for one
week. The City Manager requested the City Council
to consider approving the new lease arrangement
with the Commissioners Court of Tarrant County and
the conversion of the 1st floor court room into two
court rooms . The consensus of the Council was to
ratify the new lease arrangement with the Commis-
sioners Court of Tarrant County and the conversation
of the lst floor court room into 2 court rooms , and
to hold up for one week the Committee 's recommendation
regarding the Corporation Court 's operating procedures .
Such action was taken in the regular Council meeting.
4. Use of Coliseum for Professional Ice-Hockey MAGNESS - verbally instructed by
(I.R. 124 held over from last week) JLB to proceed with contract nego-
tiations , in cooperation with
The City Manager reported that a meeting had Legal Department.
been held May 1 , 1965 between Mayor Barr, Councilman
Kemble, a representative of the City staff , a repre-
sentative of the St Paul ice-hockey team and two
Tulsa oil men (interested in purchasing rights of
the team) regarding the use of the coliseum for pro-
fessional ice-hockey. The City Manager reported that
lie was out of town that weekend and requested that
the two Council Members present at the meeting Mayor
Barr and Councilman Kemble, comment on their impres-
sions of the meeting.
Councilman Kemble stated that the meeting proved
to be quite informative. Councilman Kemble further
reported that as a result of this meeting, lie proposed
a resolution permitting the City to enter into negotiation
with the representative from the St. Paul team regarding
the use of the coliseum for professional ice-hockey. This
resolution was read to the Council. Councilman Harms in-
quired of Councilman Kemble how he felt about the use of
the coliseum for ice-hockey following this meeting. Coun-
cilman Kemble said that he had changed his mind from last
week and now believed that the use of the coliseum for
ice-hockey would be a good investment. Also, Councilman
Kemble stated the City would reap benefits from public
ice skating and the Ice Capades . He estimated the City
would recover the coat of its investment in approximately
5 to 6 years.
Mayor Barr indicated that this resolution would only
commit us to negotiate for a contract that was agreeable
to both parties . Mayor Barr stated that the St. Paul re-
presentative would not agree to a definite three-year
lease agreement, but would agree to two years , with an
escape clause thereafter. This two year provision would
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allow the hockey team to withdraw from this contract
if aster the first two years tate ice-hockey pros-,ram
was unsuccessful. Also, the Mayor rvported that the
St. Paul representative was tentatively agreeable to
the City having a clauee in the contract providing;
for a raise of rental rate:, if the ice-hockey program
WON sucGesSful.
Councilman Shannon inquired of Councilman Kemble
as to who the local people were who were ready to in-
vest approximately $50,000 in this program. Councilman
Kemble replied that none of the parties were known at
this time. Councilman Shannon said that on the basis of
the comments made he favored the idea; but desi,•es that
a good contract protecting; the City's interest be obtained.
Councilman Hoover indicated that he was under the
impression a written report was to be submitted to the
Council for its review as to why the repair of the ice
rink was not considered at the tenAnaLion of Rip Johnson's
--antract regarding, the use of the coliseum ice facilities .
Mayor Barr replied that to his knowledge no request was
made for the staff to prepare a written report, but that
data was to be gathered for oral presentation to thO Coun-
cil . The City Manager reported that Lite primary reason
for not considering, the repair of the ice rink when the
Ice agreement with Mr. Rip Johnson.was terminated was
that there was no prospects for professional ice-hockey
at that time. The City Manager reported that under the
present contract arrangement with Mr. Rip Johnson, Lite
City would receive all rental revenue from ice-hockey
events and that the City would receive 25% of conces:;ion
:;ales. This 2`-% concession right now received by the
City is 2�% higher than Ott! old contract arrangement
which was 22';y.
Cottnci loran Hoover stated that he thought it would
1)L' in order to make attendance and revenue studies of
past ice-hockey events , public ice skating, , and previous
Ice Capades programs. Councilman Stovall stated that he
did not think this type of study would provide reliable
in;ormation in regard to the contract presently before
the Council.
Councilman Stovall stated that on the basis of the
new concession arrangement, if the ice-hockey contract
was approved, the City would receive approximately $1.'-,000
.;ore concession revenue per year. Councilman Stovall then
read a report prepared by Public Works when the Council
tudivd the possible repair of the ice rink at Lite time
Mr. Rip Johnson's contract was re-negotiated . The Public
Works report indicated $98,000 would be required to com-
pletely repair the ice rink facilities. Councilman Stovall
inquired of the City Manager what the difference was in the
$98,000 figure and the $112,000 figure quoted in I.R. 724,
regarding the use of the coliseum for professional ice-hockey.
The City Manager referred this question to the Builidng,s Man-
ager, who reported that the $98,000 figure quoted in the Public
Works Report included the entire job - such as thu re-placement
of the ice-making; equipment, Lite floor, the pipe sy4tem, etc .
The $112,000 figure said the Buildings Mana,;er dov: not in-
clude Lite replacement of the reirig;eration unit, but it does
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include purchase of basic ice-hockey equipment
(scoreboard, dasher boards, etc . ), minor repair to
the refrigeration unit to make it operable and the
installation of a new pipe systema. The Buildings
Manager reported that a survey was made at the time
of the termination of Mr. Rip Johnson's contract as
to the possibility of repairing; the old pipes . It
was found at that time that to tear out and repair
the pipes in such a fasion as to make them operable
would be too costly.
Councilman Hamm stated that lie thought it would
be desirable to install the pipes over the existing
concrete floor rather than to dig np the existing;
pipe system and repair it. Councilman Eagle inquired
how much the present floor would lie elevated to pro-
vide for the installation of pipes over the exiting;
concrete floor. Councilman llamm replied that it would
elevate the floor approximately 4 inches.
Councilman Hamm said that lie thought the Council
should approach this contract realistically, and that
we could estimate the life of the newly installed floor
to be approximately 24 years , but that to estimatr the
ice refrigeration equipment, currently being used to
last that Long; would not be feasible. However, Council-
man Hamm believos the current approach of making; minor
repairs to the refrigeration equipment is realistic and
that if the contract is approved and the ice-hockey pro-
gram proves to be successful , plans could be made at
that time to extensively repair or replace the ice re-
frigeration equipment.
Councilman Eagle inquired if there were any plans
for the installation of icr facilities in the new Tar-
rant County Convention Center. Mayor Barr replied that
the Tarrant County Convention Center did have some pre-
liminary plans for the installation of ice facilities,
but that no funds were available for its imm,ediate in-
stallation. Mayor Barr further reported that the repre-
sentative from the St . Paul Ice Hockey Team indicated the
best location of the ice-hockey team would be at the Will
Rogers Coliseum, rather than in downtown Fort 'Worth.
The general consensus of the Council was to approve
the resolution authorizing the City to enter into negotia-
tion regarding the use of the coliseum for professional
ice-hockey, and such action was taken in the regular Coun-
cil meeting .
5. Eighth Avenue Paving (M&C G-792) JIM WRIGHT - draft memo of .instruc-
tions to Public kbrks and Legal .
The City Manager inquired if any Council Members
had questions regarding; the 8th Avenue paving; project.
The City Manager reported that some ohjection could be
expected from property owners Mr. & Mrs . J.11. Scott,
Lots 8 and 9, Block 5, Enderly Park Addition, who have
improvements that encroach on City property. Mayor
Barr inquired how long the Scotts had had possession
of this property. The City Manager replied, since
1934. Mayor Barr inquired if the City had ever taxed
the owners for the City-owned land on which the building;
is located. The City Manager reported that the property
owners had never been taxed for the land on which
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improvements encroached.
Councilman Hoover inquired if the City knew it
owned that ;property when it authorized the building of
'he improvement. The City Manager reported that he did
not know. The City Manager stated that as a matter of
law, the City was not obligated to make the property
owner any reimbursement for this taking of right-of-way,
since the property was the City's . However, the City
Manager stated that there is a possible moral problem
involved on behalf of the City in regard to this property.
The City Manager further stated that a small reimburse-
ment offer had been made to the property owner, but that
no final arrangements had been made .
Mayor Barr stated that he desired for the Council
to act in accordance with what was morally right rather
than what was technically right,
The general consensus of the Council was for the
City Manager to proceed with negotiations as is currently
being done, providing reimbursement if it is considered
in order.
6. Paving Improvements at 17 locations on the North NAN
Side (M&C C-498)
The City Manager reported that a Mr. Moore would
be unable to attend the benefit Bearing for this assess-
ment paving project on the Northside and requested
special permission to be heard by the Council this morn-
fnR_ The consensus of the Council was to hear Mr. Moore. _
7. The Westlandc Water Transmission Main (M&c c-497) HARDY - please continue negotia-
tions with Tarrant Utilities
The City Manager reported that construction of the
Westland Water Transmission Main would put the City in a
p-)sition to provide water to the Westland community, but
that problems remained in dealing with the private water
company now serving the area, since a purchase price had
not been agreed upon. He said there were 3 alternatives
for resolving the problem with the private utility -
1) Agree with the Tarrant Utilities Corporation
on a fair price - one that could be recommended to the
Council for its approval ;
2) Condemn the property, which has not been done
before; or
3) Duplicate the system by providing parallel
lines, which has been done before, but does not generally
provide for service to all of the existing customers and
is originally higher in terms of capital outlay costs .
Councilman Hoover stated that the City would be furnish-
ing fire protection to non-customers with the installation
of parallel lines „ The City Manager replied that this
would be true.
The City Manager stated that there was a pollution
problem in this area due to inadequate septic tanks .. The
City Manager reported that correction to this problem is
biting provided for in the CIP which has been approved by
the Council with the standard provision that the affected
parties will pay for the excess footage.
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Councilman Shannon inquired if it was necessary
to have approval of construction of the line before
negotiation with the Tarrant Utilities Corp. was com-
pleted , The City Manager reported that the Tarrant
Utilities Corp. was under no pressure to sell . The
City Manager stated that with the approval of the con-
struction of the main by the City Council , it should
provide the City with a stronger negotiation position.
Councilman Hoover stated that if the City voted
to construct parallel lines , it should make the Tarrant
Utilities Corp., more anxious to arrive at a compromise
decision. The general consensus of the City Council
was to approve the Westland Water Transmission Main con-
struction contract and such action was taken at the
regular Council meeting-
8. Water Department Meter Problem NAN
The City Manager reported his concern regarding
the theft of Water Department meters . City Manager
stated that the problem was under investigation by the
Water and Police Depts . At the present time, City Man-
ager stated he would prefer hot to discuss the matter
until more time was given for investigation of the problem.
Councilman Kemble inquired who would be using the
stolen water meters ., City Manager replied that probably
only private water firms or other municipalities would find
use for the meters , Councilman Eagle inquired if the theft
might possibly be for salvage sales . City Manager replied
that at this time this was not known. Mayor Barr stated lie
would desire the staff to investigate the possibility of
closer inventory procedures throughout the entire City or-
ganization. The City Manager replied that such a study
would be conducted and inventory controls , where necessary,
would be provided ,
9 - Report on Horse Lot at 3008 Bright Street (IR #728) NAN
The City Manager stated that the Public Health Di-
rector was present to answer any questions regarding the
horse lot complaint at 3008 Bright :. The Public Health
Director reported that there was one horse in the horse
lot and that no health problem existed . The Health Di-
rector further reported that there had been no health prob-
lems discovered in previous investigations and that in his
opinion no health hazard existed and there was no need to
revise the health ordinances in regards to the keeping of
animals within the city limits .
City Council accepted the findinxs of the report :