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Home My WebLink About1966/05/09-Agenda-Pre-Council MINl1f ES PRE-COUNCIL CONFERENCE MAY 9, 1966 Present Late Absent 1. Barr 7� ,Jones (Item 3) hone 2. Kemble 8.. Shannon ( tem 3) 3. Stovall 9. .Hoover item 3) 4. Deen 5. Hamm 6. Eagle I t e m Follow-"_U I . Formal Opening of New Fire Station #17 GENE - list reminder on May 23rd (IR #943) Informal Agenda DICK - notify Councilmen Shannon, The consensus of the Council was to have the Hoover, Jones, and Chief Owens Council luncheon at 'Fire Station #17 on Mbnd''sy, Ray 23rd rather than May 16th as suggested in IR #943, 2„ Long Range Refuse Disposal Plan (M&C G-940) GENIE - list on Agendas for May 23rd Several. Council Members expressed the view that this was a fine report , and agreed that the approach to refuse disposal by landfill was sound, Councilman Stovall requested that the matter be held one week. At the regular meeting, Mr. Richard Gray„ 5008 Sherwood , River Oaks, appeared to request that he be Am allowed to present a refuse disposal plan utilizing transfer stations, and to propose a contract with the City for disposing of all waste from the transfer sta- tions at a point some distance from the city . He asked for two weeks to develop his plan. The Council delayed action on this M&C for two weeks. 3. Long; Range Water Treatment and Distribution DICK AND HARDY - draft IR on two-yt,ar (M&C G-935 and IR #947) rule drouth period. Councilman Hamm inquired .about the conversion GENE - list on May 16th Agendas . from acre feet to MGD in discussing capacity of the West Fork reservoirs, The Water Director pointed out that the conversion was made on the chart in IR #947, showing that 45 MGD would be available during drouth periods , Councilman Stovall asked what is a drouth period. Mr. Hardy said it was when more water was used than entered the reservoirs. The Water Director said that 45 MGD represents the average yield during a drouth period such as in the 1950's. Mayor Barr asked what a two-year rule, instead of three-year rule; would do. The City Manager said that this would tend to lengthen the duration of a drouth which would be needed to trigger construction of t?:e treatment plant and pipeline. Councilman Hamm asked whether there was a bad leak in the West Fork conduit during the last drouth. " he Water Director said that a bad leak in the West Fork con- duit was repair in March 1953, and in 1956 smaller leaks 00 -t- on the conduit were repaired when a second conduit was in ,low operation. Councilman Hamm said he tho kis%ht the cost of Benbrook water was high, but that the availability of that water should be determined before other alternatives are approached. He said this would solve the need for more water at the Holly Plant. lie said that his own study relating to population showed that from 1958 to 1965 that there had been a 25 per cent decrease in home starts each year. Mayor Pro-Tem Jones said that he had recently read in U.S. News & World Report that the population rate of growth in the U.S. had slowed down. He said he also would like a study of population trends in Fort Worth, The City Manager said that the City is using 1910 and 1980 population projections done by Larry Smith about. 1963. He said annual projections are now made by the City Plan De- partment . He said the 1965 estimate now being used is 391,000, which is below the Larry Smith projection for 1965. Councilman Hamm said that in 1956 the delivery time on the pumps for the Brazos emergency project was ten months . He said he thinks the three-year rule is sound, and that the Benbrook water availability is the biggest present study need. He said maybe package generators will be practical by the time the treatment plant would need to be built and that technological change might outdate design plana . He said he thinks that if the plant and pipeline are designed, there will be pressures to build them sooner than needed. lie said that right-of-way purchased by the Water District was authorized July 8, 1963, and that much of it is now purchased. The City Manager said that what the staff is trying to do is to delay the starting date on the treatment plant as long as possible, by embarking on a deliberate planning process. He said if we do nothing now, we may be pressed under the three-year rule and have to do the work on a "crash" basis. Councilman Shannon asked how Crestwood pump station and Benbrook reservoir water fit into the picture. The City Manager replied that the two variables involved are the three-year rule on starting construction of the treatment plant and pipeline, and the peak daily capacity for water production at the Holly Plants. He said there are two ways to delay use of Cedar Creek water - number one, get more water from Benbrook reservoir, and number two, to build the Crestwood pump station. Councilman Shannon asked what the cost of Crestwood pump station is. The Water Director replied about $500,000 maximum. Councilman Shannon asked how much more water would be available. The City Manager said that Crestwood pump station would bring to the Holly Plant enough water for its capacity of about 175 MGD. He said that later the pump station would serve an expanded Holly Plant, which is in the long-range plans for the 1970's, after the Rolling Hills Plant is in operation. He said the staff wants to check out the Benbrook water availability first, with the State Water Commission, but he said this must be done cautiously, with little publicity. Councilman Kemble asked if the staff is sure the design plans won't be obsolete. The City Manager said they would not bc, but that some updating would probably be needed. He said the basic design will probably be the same. The Water Director confirmed this. Mayor Barr said he thinks the engineering investment for de- sign now would be good, to substitute for a possible funding of -3- $40 million dollars on a construction investment , which might be made before it was necessary. Councilman Hamm said he thought we should go ahead with the Benbrook study now and wait awhile on the engineering design. Councilman Hoover said that Ben Hickey says the Water District has 90 per cent of the right-of-way purchased, and the District is going ahead on the engineering of the pipeline now. He said he would like to know the relationship of this water supply and treatment problem with the proposed annexed areas . Mayor Barr said that he would like the Water Department to make a projection of the number of months of drouth required to put into effect a two-year rule, rather than a three-year rule. The Water Director said that Freese, Nichols and Endress had made the 12 to 13 month projection on the three-year rule, and they could do a two-year rule projection at little cost. Councilman Shannon said that frequencies showed that we should look out for another drouth at any time. At the regular meeting the Council delayed action on M&C G-935 for further study. 4: There was insufficient time at the Pre-Council Conference to discuss the following items : a) Proposed Community Facility Policy Changes (M&C G-943 - See regular meeting notes b) Proposed Building Code Amendments (M&C G-944) - Approved at regular meeting c) Supplemental Financing for 1965-66 Budget (MSC G-938) - Approved at regular meeting; d) Rental Rates - Will Rogers Center (M&C G-941) - Approved at regular meeting;