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HomeMy WebLinkAbout1966/05/30-Agenda-Pre-Council MINUTES Pre-Council Conference May 30, 1966 Present �I3te Absent 1 . Barr b . Hoover (Item 3) 2. Jones 9. Shannc)n (Item 3) 3. Kemble 4. Stovall 5. Eagle 6. Hamm Deen t e m Follow-Up Invitation for Bus 'four of Great Southwest DICK - has called Jim Garvin on 5/30/6t', Industrial District to arrange tour of both areas, begin- ning by bus from City Hall at 11 :30, The consensus of the Council was to accept the invitations also to include appropriate invitation to take a tour of the Great Southwest In- board members and staff members ., dustrial District (some thought the Marie I area and others thought the Mark IV area) And set the date for next Monday noon, June 6. 2� Reminder - DeMolay Civics Day Breakfast at GWEN - please remind Council by tele- 7 .00 a.m. Thursday, June 2, at Polytechnic phone on Wednesday afternoon. Methodist Church; 1310 Collard Street All members of the Council (including Councilmen Hoover and Shannon who were informed later) except Councilwoman Deen said they would try to be there. _ .,. 3 . Newell 's Industrial Addition. DICK - draft memo to PW Director to redraft the developers policy including Mr. Allen Conner, attorney, and Mr. Bob Brown, this action on private streets , en- engineer for Newell, were present at the Pre-Council gineering changes on streets and storm Conference. Councilman Hamm said the problem seemed drains (M&C G-943) and bonding require- to be whether the private streets in this area should ments which should be in the text rathe be constructed to 'City specifications , and that the than the procedures section. Council should instruct the staff how to proceed. Mr. Conner and Mr_ Brown said that the staff is asking Mr. Newell to sign a contract to have streets conform to City specifications . Mr. Brown said :he whole area is a former gravel pit, and that there is no unstable soil in the area. He said that the ten inches of gravel now placed in the street between concrete curbs and gutters, is of good quality, and that one and a half inches of hot mix asphaltic con- crete surface will provide a suitable grade of indus- trial street. Mayor Barr asked if the staff hasn't indicated that an engineers certificate of equal strength would satisfy the staff as far as contract requirements . Mr. Brown said the staff has so indicated, The City Manager said that the staff has asked Mr. Newell to stare in writing what is wrong with the proposed de- veloper contract, but that such statement hasn't been given. Alft Councilman Hoover compared the industrial sub- division with the Seminary South commercial subdivision, Councilman Hamm said there is also a street light problem and a problem with the paved drainage channel . Jr -2- Mr. Conner said that Mr . Thelin had informed the group originally that a developers contract would be o0m, necessary only on water and sewer facilities and the paving of Woodrow Street . Mr. Brown added that the drainage ditch also was to be covered by contract The Public Works Director said he thought there were two questions involved : 1 ) The engineering dif- ferences on specifications, which it appeared could be settled between the staff and Mr. Newell 's representa- tives , and 2) The City's right to specify construction standards on the private streets. Mrs, Deen said she thought the City had a right "> regulate the specifications on private streets . Mr. Conner said he thought the staff had a say-so in this matter, but that it should not be retroactive. Mayor Barr said he thought it wasn't in this case , that Newell had started his development too soon, before proper clearance had been obtained. Mr. Conner said that Mr.. Thelin had reviewed the matter and said it was okay. Mayor Barr said he thought there must be something more than work in this subdivision involved, because agreement seemed to be already reached on the requirements in this case, Mr . Brown said that Mr. Newell had not received a reply to his earlier letter, and that Mr. Newell didn't seem to know what was required . This was disputed by the City Manager,, Councilman Hamm said this problem with Mr. Newell is typical with that experienced by all developers .in Fort Worth . Councilman Shannon asked what was the fuss about , since there didn't seem to be disagreement on the construction specifications . The City Manager said that Elie staff and Mr. Newell need to hear, again from the Council how to proceed. Councilman. Hoover asked if 1� inches of hot mix as- plialtic concrete surface is enough. Mr. Brown said this amount would last from 10 to 15 years providing the subgrade and base held up , Councilman Stovall asked if there was an agreement with the former Public Works Director. The City Manager said that word received this weekend from Mr. Thelin was that he had said that water; sewer and drainage facilities should be included in the contract , but that he was vague on a street agreement, if any. He said he thought the former Public Works Director was somewhat gun-shy on the matter because he tried to get a standard street agreement in the Conner Industrial. Addition in Elie 1950's, and was pulled off by they City Council at that time. Mayor Barr said he would like to settle the matter this mornin;;, so that contract negotiations could proceed as Council decided on the private street matter. Councilman llamm said the rules don 't provide an alternate to concrete streets , The City Manager said this is not correct, that the Public Works Director can specify alternate and equal street specifications in commercial and industrial areas . At the regular meeting, the letter dated May 27 , 1966 from W. J. Newell to the City Council was discussed, and the Council unanimously approved a motion for the staff to appIX standard policies to the private Streets in this area. _� A% 4 . There was insufficient time at the Pre-Council Conference to discuss the following items - a) Community Facility policy Changes (M&C G-943 - see regular meeting nates) b) Information on Metal Boxes for 1� and 2 Inch Water Meters (M&C. Fa520, Item 6, and IR #962) - approved at regular meeting c) Condemnation Requests - Regional Airport Property N&C's L-1185, 1186 and 1187.) - appmved at regular meeting. d) Compliance of New Vehicles with "ity Specifications (IR #961) c) Change Order n Forest Park Boulevard Extension (M&C 0-719) _ see regular meeting notes