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MINUTES
PRE COUNCIL CONFERENCE
December' 27 r 1967
Present Late Absent
1 ; McKinley 6 Guinn (Item 1 ) No Council Members
2 . Kemble 7 . Hoover (Item 1) Farrington for
3. Sarsga rd 8. Sarsgard (Item 1) McMahan.
4, Wilson 9 . nunham (Item 1)
5. Kersnick
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I . Orientation on Master Drainage Plan E11D - Notify Public Warks.
to instruct Consultants to
Members of the consulting engineering firm of Knowlton, proceed with finalization
Ratliff and English were introduced to Council Members by of the Manual and Master
Acting City Manager David Farrington and Public Works Plan on the Southwest Side
Director Jack M Graham. Mr, Knowlton made 3n illustrated under contract
presentation on thi progress and development of the Mister
Drainage Plan for the City of Fort Worth. It was explained
that the Finn is under contract to the City and is in the
process of developing criteria for storm drainage facilities
and for the development ul a master plan in a seventeen square
mile area of the City A preliminary draft of a storm drainage
criteria and design manual , in looseleaf form, was furnished
to each Council Member .
The presentation emphasized the various methods in de-
trrmtning the amounts of water and intensities of Mows for
wliitle dratnage facilitivs must be designed and constructed .
Tlie rational and synrhetic hydrograph methods were explained ,
indicating that the hydrograph method be applied in areas ut
over 1000 acres , and that the rational method be applied in
areas of less than 1000 acres , Minimum design frequencies of
floods were discussed , with illustrations of Live , ten and
twenty-iivc yt•ar design frequency intervals , bused upon the
size of the facility being constructed and the area of
property being served by the various facilities ,
The Engineers noted that techn cal papers published by
the l!ni ted States Weather Bureau had been ,i pdated in 1961 to
include all atoms, not merely the stormR of greatest rainfall ,
resulting in more accurate determinations of the facilities
needed to accommodate ".lash floods", LhaMe periods of :-ain-
ial i of great intensity over a shirr duration It' was
repcirted that a five-year minimum frequency is residential
areas was the criteria adopted by the Cone,iltant and which is
recommended to the City for a basis in design of facilities
Two exhibits were presented for Council Mvitibers in
addition Lt.. the manual , including a large-scale design of
the Bluebonnet Hills area , and a sketch of the draitktge needs
and conditions in the Hedge Station area The Consultants
emphasized that the criteria were developed for maximum flexi-
bility and adjustment to individual cases by gnalitied engineers
either associated with the City or consultancs doini; work for
construction of facilities that will lie ultimately owned and
maintained by the City
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Councilmen Sar::t•,ard and Ker bib expressed concern alautt
ttw flooding cunelit ions in the litut iwiinc:t Hi is area antl
Inquired wltetlrcr the AL•atster flraia.t,�.e Plan wnulti take -ipeLlal
Ict•ttnnt of the• oat sal l waters to as:cltre that the remedy ui
r iuod i.nt• condi t ion-• in ulte lleighhoncOcrd witid nrlt contribute
Problems in another nui):llhnrhood downstream. PLO)IIL
td-rl-:: Director Graham 1-c-ported that the Mtt:.t t•r Plan envi-
tur d flit, carr':itic v1 atl drainj,,;e . + tc111:: Lu the .1doquate
di. lxt..al
it water ilt the Tiittit v [fiver systew Il Was
r(•porLcd that flit• ^!7st,vr Drainage Plan would -.how the cri-
Lc•ria for l,uildicl;• d rainage 1 rlci 1 it ies , I he area•, of nuvd
throllyltout the City, and a pusr,ihlu means u aII viating the
I loodin),, conditiun making tttaxillim, itso of existing facilities .
Pttli.ry mailers Io be decided by the CiLv r:ounc:il include
priorities for prat*,re_ss in correcting draina:;e deficiencies ,
and Lite t inane itsr for needed draitia,•o prat 'It•CL% .
Tho Prlhlic Wltrks M lector r1• nt iuned Li!at the existence
ut a Mx;tut Drainat•c Plan would hc• tl assfstntict• to devolopers
IJ* nt w suhdi.vir.iun: by turni:clting p+•rt itterlt drainage ittforlT13-
11.111 llpull which LIQ+'r f• at'ctlt-11e coil pro 1(•Cl. i.ow; .'Ind ct}t:t
.li::trihutiun cstimaLos could ha. Matic•. Ills.• -reatet:t impact
of Llle updated criteria and design manual , relxtrted by the
Ptthlic Wt+rks Dircctoi , is the lar;-cr ,ive and extension of
pipe tltt Lhe uppt•r ,nd til drainage laci I it il••, wlllch wrutld
lart••c•ly hu finarttud by devuluper'i of new subdivisions Ik.
I)Oiut erl nut that tits City':: cu.yt would als(i be increased as
_I rt :tnl t of larper :;ilex et1 piTx- bcc:m ;r• the City p;lrt ic4 pate:,
ill 25 pet cent or the cep .t of drainage iaci l itios measuriny,
1..11: 't•1 than Jo ittclles in tli.unoter
N-th Flavor McKiltl ev jud Curint_ i lt:ian Wi 1• rlt agreed that
I If Citv may need Lu Id just i t•: pt:liries wi I i re, :trd tt, new
1. V• It.prrlenl Lit as:�Ilt c that. a propt•i- di:trihill ion tot cU:;t l,e-
I ..0 :r : I i v Ci 1 v anti dt•vr•lopt'r i; tn.iintainrd . pt t i ! ` c. rerI-rC•tI e
�.c.t ati Lt.) 1.1lt tack that l::r}ger '4;-t's +t.ly lllcl'tt.?t•e tflt+ nnm1wr
tiraitlage lacilitit in Which I.IIt Vity participate .
ll:, :e was ::arse indication alneanl, G.11HIL i l Mt tnbrr% that an ad }utit-
;1cnt ctl the• gilt inch ir.e at %AAch 1ht• City begins to part icipotc
mii•hl ht• increased to a lar;'er diameter Lu ccmilionsate Ior the
incivase in dcsi� it criteria rucnnunended by the• Ct.;nsultants .
Councilman llovver voiced the concern t.11;It increased (Ir-
i••Ir rind criteria -oandard s would tend to vncourapt• elv%,eluptnent
M rid' t :, ;and the l uwt•r l yi lt,; d ra i n.tt;t: :Ire;t•:
t:t+itlleilticlt Ullttitaltl alld Sir-waild al::rt expressed interest in
devl letpiny� S;OWC ftleasts 1,41 ;ta�:nrt- that no gaps di-vt:loh in tht•
l t tit, and that orderly duvelopruent of th.• d'-ail1:I, a plats can
procecd withunt platn
plating an tarl:;tial hurden inion e•iIher the City
or nuarby devt•lopers . 'file Public- tWlll:ti Uirector culnmented that.
Iht• C'iI . 's y alternative• is to condemn and build at full
lrt I CIII-Ullt•11 ;a rt ;1:: Wlt 'r� Ialttlitl:nt I"• a' t rtni yet rt'.It{y
AP lot dt_�, 1 eat Uouncilin.-in Oliuilam e.,l:. • ive-n inlorriiaLi.olt that.
oe.i not, pl'rlYli t e_i t i t•:c L#1 ;t:• :t 'l:i 1+.r •:i tin,i drainFage
1. 11 LN kli ,t rt t•I. 1'iy11tH-of-VAV
A lt• collclurit n oI lhtr prt'SelataLiull. Ill- Public l: rk:,
t)i rc, + cal lent ed Lbe pi t•1 imi.tlury dral t • of I lit, Ahtnttal t!••I
reporiod fliat wllrl. wrrtlld procc•^d witit tIw I {tial Ili v1,.1,:11 ioll
t l Lht 16L11tua1wanl the coctplvllon •tt lilt• KISLtrl Ili ain.igi. )'!.Ili
11 Lht' Area 11t Ibe• Cit y lltltlt•r 1 Ultt rrtt_I Its I her t .tn:.tl l t alit
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2 . Review of Amendment to Cedar Creek Contract QEF - Seek early meeting
date for Council with member
Councilman Dunham expressed concern whether the of the Water District.
decision made by the City Council on December 18 regarding
amendment of the Cedar Creek contract with the Water Board
should he reviewed . He stated that he had discussed the
matter with representatives of the news media and other
persons who expressed concern that the economic goals of
the amendment may not be readily achievable. He stated
that a number of questions had been raised by Councilman
Hoover, Mayor McKinley and Councilman Ira Kersnick which
had not been fully answered at the previous Council meeting .
Because of the questions of other Co)until Members and
because of his own desire to obtain more information from
representatives of the Water District , Mr. Dunham suggested
that the City Manager withhold execution of the amendment
pending appearance before a future Pre-Council meeting by a
representative of the District to explain the economics of
the prupused Water Contract Amendment .
3. Rental Agreement for Will Rogers Center with Texas MAN
Western Fair of Fort Worth, Inc . (M&C C-1124)
Councilmen Kemble and Hoover inquired about the benefits
to the City of the 20-year option provision contained in the
proposed agreement . Don Magness , Will Rogers Memorial Build-
ings Director, replied that the 20-year option was included
for the protection of the investor from a second year invasion
of the contract. He mentioned that failure of the firm to
make specified deposits by the beginning of the following
calendar year would result in cancellation of the contract .
Mayor McKinley questioned whether a sufficient rate of
return was being obtained on carnival rides , and suggested
that 25 per cent would be nearer the going rate. Mr. Magness
replied that the operators of the fair intended to furnish
forms of entertainment on the fair ground and that the manage-
ment was also sharing in the proceeds from the carnival rides.
He indicated that the 12 per cent figure was a compromise
between the City and the operators of the fair.
Councilman Kemble inquired whether the City would main-
tain full control over activities within the fair grounds , to
which the Buildings Manager replied that the rental agreement
gives the City full authority to remove any objectionable forms
of exhibit or merchandise. He cited the recent Teen Fair at
which certain items of merchandise were removed by the City
when found to be objectionable.
At the regular Council meeting, the agreement with the
Texas Western Fair was approved unanimously.
There was insufficient time during the Pre-Council MAN
session to discuss the following items .
a) Contract for the Installation of Community Facilities ,
Wedgwood Development "L" (M&C C-1121 , M&C C-1122, and
M&C C-1123)
b) Transmittal of 1968 Capital Improvement Program - Fire,
Airports , and Library Section (IR #1324) _