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Present:
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Davis
Johnson
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Zapata
Newkirk
Bradshaw
Barbour - came in late
Bagsby - came in late
ITEM: Referred to:
I. Payment for Police and Fire Services at Public Events
(M&C G-3659)
Mr. Line said he wanted to make sure that the writing in
the M&C was the same as that agreed to by City Council
previously.
Councilman Woods said that he thought this had formerly
been agreed to.
Mr. Line commented that he felt that the agreement was
formerly adopted by City Council but when investigated it was
found not so.
Councilman Zapata asked who determines need for ser-
vices for crowd control - the two Chiefs?
Mr. Line discussed the policy in that if the crowd control
is on public streets it is the City's responsibility, but if it is off
the street, it belongs to others.
Mayor Parmer commented that the policy does allow for
national figures who come to Fort Worth to have proper police
protection on or off a public street.
2. Extended Automobile Liability Insurance Endorsements
for Police Officers and Fire Fighters (M&C G-3641 and
I.R. No. 3048).
Mr. Line discussed the I.R. on the subject and the revision
needed in the M&C. That the proposal calls for reimbursement _
to Policemen and Firemen for insurance. OFFICIAL RcCORD
Councilman Bradshaw asked why did the staff take the CITY S�OUTARY
extra week in preparations. FT. WORTH, TEX.
Mr. Line commented that this subject was quite involved
and entailed much staff time and preparation.
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3. Health Insurance Program (M&C G-3663)
Mr. Line requested that the M&C be revised to allow staff
90 days extension rather than the written 60 day extension. If a
decision is made to change insurance companies there will be
considerable amount of time needed to change the bookkeeping
procedures and record changes.
Councilman Zapata asked if the insurance company will go
along with the 90 day extension.
Mr. Line answered "yes:'
4. Proposed Construction Site for the Near Southside Multi-
purpose Center (M&C G-3650 and I.R. 3049)
Mayor Parmer discussed the restaurant involved in the
site selection and that Councilman Bagsby was not present.
Mr. Shamblee stated that an agreement had been reached
in reference to the restaurant. That the restaurant would remain
and more property to the north will be purchased. All property
owners were in agreement except for Mrs. Kirkpatrick.
Mrs. Kirkpatrick of 1108 New York said she was a disabled
veteran with no money, and did not want to see her property sold
and also her sister was part owner of the property.
Mayor Parmer asked that the discussion wait until Coun-
cilman Bagsby is present.
5. North Tri-Ethnic and Worth Heights Community Centers
(M&C C-4028)
Councilman Zapata questioned the name "North Tri-
Ethnic". Where was it to be located? (Identification was made
and commented that the name had been changed recently).
Councilman Newkirk questioned if the Center would
include a mini-library.
Councilman Zapata asked if the budget proposed for the
center included the gym and was there sufficient money to cover
the low bid.
Mr. O'Dell commented that that was what the M&C was
all about.
Mr. Line commented about the mini-library idea and that
the proposed center did not include a mini-library. That the city
was looking at leasing property for a mini-library in the area. r �
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(Subject: Restroom next to Pre-Council Room) *G.G.
Councilman Bradshaw asked what was the difference - he
could hear the flushing of the johns.
Mr. Line said it wasn't he.
Councilman Woods said it wasn't his plumbers.
6. Expansion of CETA PSE Program (Title II and Title VI)
(M&C G-3673)
Mr. Sturns reported that the proposed changes in hiring
schedule would allow the City to hire additional 300 people. This
was partially accomplished by a program that is scheduled to cut
short by two months. That the program needed CIP type funds
for Traffic Engineering from General Funds to purchase mater-
ials.
Councilman Newkirk questioned use of City funds for
CETA projects - that when the CETA funds were cut off the City
would be in a trap for needs. It was asked if Traffic Engineering
would be doing the work anyway, just not as soon. Also are funds
coming from reserves?
Mr. Line said the funds would come from unappropriated
reserve f unds.
Councilman Newkirk asked why at this time.
Mr. Line commented that the signs need to be changed out
as a result of national standards. These are not street name
signs but they are traffic control signs.
Councilman Newkirk commented that the reserve funds
should be held for emergencies only.
Mr. Line said that we have access to CETA labor now. If
we wait we will have to pay for labor and materials, not just
materials as is proposed in this M&C.
Councilman Davis questioned the City using CETA em-
ployees and becoming dependent on them.
Mr. Line explained that the City was not dependent on
CETA - just making good use of CETA programs. That our
regular employees were doing the basic City jobs. He commen-
ted on another City where CETA money is paying for 300
policemen. All projects started with CETA employees are Li
scheduled for completion before the end of that particular CETAprogram. .aCouncilman Davis questioned if the CETA program was to TEX.
be aimed at training employees.
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Mr. Line said a goal of CETA was to train individuals so
that a permanent job could be located.
Mr. Sturns commented on the Hawkins bill for next year's
budget. That if enacted it would take the CETA program for
another couple of years.
Councilman Bradshaw questioned if a Clerk II under the
CETA program was paid the same as a Clerk II regular employee.
Also, was the City using CETA employees in the Police Pound
and where located?
Mr. Sturns commented that the Pound was located in the
Police building and that the need was for a good inventory to be
taken.
Councilman Newkirk asked if a person needed to be un-
employed for 15 months before eligible for CETA. (Staff
corrected time to 15 weeks.) Where was the City going to locate
Engineering Aides for this program?
Mr. Sapp commented that the Engineering Aides would
come from recent graduates of colleges.
Mr. Santerre commented that the materials needed for
Traffic Engineering CETA program were signposts to replace
short posts that have been ruled as dangerous to traffic involved
in accidents.
Councilman Newkirk questioned the pavement tape and
conduit.
Mr. Santerre explained that pavement tape would last
from 3 to 6 times longer than paint.
Mr. Line questioned Santerre about any deadlines.
Mr. Santerre explained that the CETA program fit into an
overall program, therefore, no deadline. The National Code has
been in effect for some time.
Councilman Zapata questioned if the program was not the
same as rejected several months ago.
Mr. Sturns said that it was not the same funds. These
funds were generated from slow start-up and from cut off of last
two months of time possible.
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4. Proposed Construction Site for the Near Southside Multi-
purpose Center (M&C C-3660 and I.R. 3049)
Councilman Bagsby discussed the proposed site. That the
restaurant would remain and the property north of the site would
be purchased to make up further needed land. He said there was
still one home owner, Mrs. Kirkpatrick and her sister who did
not want to sell their property. Councilman Bagsby asked that
the Council procede with approving the M&C. That most of the
property was sub-standard and also rent property.
Councilman Newkirk questioned where the property would
be purchased to make up for the restaurant. It was confirmed
that property to the north would be considered.
Councilwoman Barbour questioned the relocation proce-
dures - that if a property free of debt was purchased that the
City would relocate the person to property also free of debt.
Mr. O'Dell commented that the City would purchase the
site property at fair market value and find a house of same size
up to standard and debt free to move the person into. He said
that new property can cost the City up to $15,000 more than the
purchase price of the original property.
There followed a discussion using examples of priced land
and improvements.
Councilman Johnson asked if the house being moved into
must be up to standard (code) - it was confirmed that the house
would have to meet the code.
Mrs. Kirkpatrick commented that she would like to see
her present home moved possibly across the street where a
vacant lot exists.
Mr. O'Dell confirmed that her house could be moved if it
can be brought to City code. He also commented the City would
pay any living expenses needed during the time that Mrs.
Kirkpatrick and her sister might have while the house is being
moved and brought to City code.
Councilwoman Barbour asked that the Council not belabor
the question and move ahead.
Councilman Bagsby asked Council proceed with approval
of the M&C.
Reverend George said that he did not want to see anyone
hurt - that he would talk with both Councilman Bagsby and Mrs. OFFICIAL R_CHRD
Kirkpatrick. CIT LCRUA Y
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7. Status Report of Sub-Standard Properties (I.R. No. 3047)
Councilman Woods questioned what the staff would be
doing with the sub-standard property in question.
Mr. O'Dell referred to the last paragraph of the I.R. -
that the staff would continue to enforce the code and work with
the property owners.
Mayor Parmer commented that the deadline for the
property in question was 60 days which would be up on January
15, 197 He asked the staff to remind the property owners in
question of the January 15 deadline.
8. Proposed Comprehensive Study of Water Distribution
System (M&C C-4025)
Councilman Newkirk questioned the need for study and
the big price.
Mr. Robinson commented that the City knows what it has
but it needs to have a plan for future growth. That the old plan
being used now needs to be updated. It is expected that the City
will be growing and possibly expanding in different direction than
the past ten years. That the drought possibilities need to be re-
looked at and a plan developed for through 1985.
Councilman Newkirk questioned if the Water District did
the planning for overall water supply.
Mr. Robinson commented that the Water District did do
some overall planning but not for the water system within the
City. That water came to the Rolling Hills Treatment Plant
from Cedar Creek and into Lake Worth, but the City had to
worry about distributing the water after it was treated. That
during a drought on the West Fork of the Trinity, that most of
the water woud come from Cedar Creek and we do not have
sufficient water system to transport the water from the Rolling
Hills Plant into all of the rest of the City. Especially the last
plan did not attest to development in the northeast part of the
county as it appears developmept is proceeding.
Mr. Line commented that not approving this proposed
study would be a $325,000 mistake.
Councilman Newkirk said this was a mighty big ticket to
pay for. The City built into the plans for Westpoint addition
oversized lines to insure water distribution. LF�LiWDRTH
i1�Mr. Robinson commented that for planning purposes theTARY
consultant will use growth information from the City's Planning Department and COG population projections. He commentedTEX
that over the past ten years that the City Council had not
received any complaints from citizens not having ample water.
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Councilman Newkirk questioned if the study would involve
the customer cities around Fort Worth served by the Fort Worth
system.
Mr. Robinson confirmed that the study would involve all
customer cities.
Councilman Bradshaw said the study was needed but there
should be a Council Committee established to make recommen-
dations to the selection of an Engineering firm.
Mr. Robinson said he did not realize that the City Council
wanted to be involved in the selection process.
Mr. Line apologized for not remembering the Council
wishes in the question. That the M&C can wait for the Council
Committee to act.
Councilman Zapata questioned if the City could hire on
experts to do the many studies we get involved in rather than
hiring consultants.
Mr. Line commented on the broad range of studies that
the City needs - that it would cost considerably more to hire on
the experts that would be needed. That Engineering Consultants
make their services available to many cities to justify having
certain experts in their firm.
Councilman Bradshaw commented that even the Con-
sultants are limited as to experts and only a few could take on
this study.
Councilman Zapata discussed comments he had received
from citizens concerned with the City hiring consultants and the
waste of City money.
Mr. Line discussed the amount of money private enter- *D.I.
prize would invest in research using a figure of 10%. He
suggested that the City should total up the research type
expenditures to show what percent the City spends. That it
would probably be in the range of .5%. (Report needed)
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1) Councilman Bagsby asked than an M&C be drafted and
brought to Council asking approval of free rent for Casa.
Councilman Bagsby also asked that a copy of a resolution
prepared by Bagsby and Barbour be sent to Daniel Glenn.
Referred to J. Thompson III.
2) Need report to City Council on the property owned by
Mrs. Kirkpatrick and her sister. (Report to Council before
Meeting of December 27, 1977).
Referred to Vernell Sturns.
3) Need report on M&C G-3661 - (R.R. crossing needs to be
listed on pre-council)
Referred to Gary Gwyn
4) Substandard Buildings (M&C G-3662) was delayed one
week. Need report on Ben Morrison's proposal schedule.
Referred to Vernell Sturns.
5) Report for Zapata - Equal employment requirements for
contractor and businesses doing busines with City of Fort
Worth.
Referred to Vernell Sturns.
6) City Council asked for report on pornographic materials
on sale at newstands and convenience stores. Also asked
to study the Ordinances approved for both Dallas and
Philadelphia. Need report from Johndroe as to status of
Fort Worth Ordinance.
Referred to S. G. Johndroe and A. J. Brown.
Urr�ii',IAL RECORD
CITY SECRETARY
FT. WORTH, TOL