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HomeMy WebLinkAbout1985/11/12-Agenda-Pre-Council A G E N D A PRE-COUNCIL TING TUESDAY, NOVEMBER 12, 1985 9:00 A.M. PRE-COUNCIL CHAMBER 1) Resolution Relating to Federal Fiscal Decisions Affecting Local Government - David A. Ivory , Assistant City Manager (15 Min . ) 2) Consultant Services for Rebidding Solid Waste Management Con- tractors (M&C C-9349) - David A . Ivory and Ulysses Ford , City Services Director (20 Min . ) 3) Presbyterian Night Shelter of Tarrant County (M&C C-9350) - Ramon Guajardo , Director, Housing and Human Services (5 Min . ) 4 ) Casting of Votes for Board of Directors of Tarrant Appraisal District (G-6486) - A . Judson Bailiff , Finance Director ( 5 Min . ) * To add or make revisions , please call the City Manager' s Office, 870-6116, before 3 :00 P .M . , Monday , November 11 , 1985 The purpose of the Pre-Council Conference held prior to a regular City Council Meeting is to allow the Mayor and Councilmembers to discuss informally items on the agenda and to secure information from the City Manager and the staff . Although the meeting is open to the public , citizens are requested to reserve comments and questions for the subsequent Council meeting so they will be a part of the public record . ?RE-COUNCIL MEETING NOVEMBER 12, 1983 MEMBERS ABSENT: MRS. WETHERBY Resolution Relating to Federal Fiscal Decisions Affecting Local Government David passed out copies of a resolution drawn up by staff in response to information in last week's meeting. Williams: Is it necessary for us to do this now or should we wait until we know exactly what's going to happen? (Ivory: The 3 items identified are basic and long standing from council's standpoint. We're asking that Congress consider any costs burdening local governments, examine the impact on local governments, and consider implementation of their goals to give local governments time to implement their actions. ) Newkirk: I don't have any problems with the whereases, but I do have a problem with #3 in the wherefores. (Ivory: Number 3 refers to the City's budget according to what the federal government has said is going to be available. We're asking to have sufficient notice to act accordingly_) Lancaster: We're going to have to show some leadership. I think it's time for Fort Worth to show some leadership and say we're going to take some cuts and now is the time to do it. (Williams: Are you saying you support this?) ( Lancaster: I'm saying let 's change paragraph 3.) '(Bolen: What verbage do you want in that?) (Let's say that the City of Fort Worth is ready to take its cuts now.) Bagsby: I'll vote for the version to cut now but only because I know when it hits it's going to hit hard. It doesn't just hurt the poor and women, but it's going to hurt defense and the arts. Wouldn't part of the alternative be to cover part of these cuts by the reserves? (Lancaster: I couldn't agree more. One reason we're where we are now is from in the Spring when we went up to Washington and asked them not to do this. Sometimes we have to give up our short-term interests for the long-term interests of all. Newkirk: Can't we go along with this resolution without #3? Bolen: The only issue before you is should cuts be spread around or should they just be targeted at specific areas? If you unilaterally give up your negotiating position on the front end, you give up your bargaining chips. Lancaster: You maintain your credibility when you say you are willing to take your cuts.) (Bolen: We should aL least know what's on the table and then decide what we don't and what we want. I've gone on record saying Fort Worth will accept the cuts but not if ForL Worth's is going to be the only one. ) Williams: I would like to see us pull this resolution and not vote on it. 3olen: `Face a resolution on the flour. ) 2 Consultant Services for Rebidding Solid Waste Management Contractors { 9349) i 1 v�... p SEC'L y E�, WO A N, TEX. Illy presented information to council. Williams: We need to pay somebody $50,000 to tell us those figures for 84-85? (Ford: When we first went into this, we considered the City's accountability to compete with the private sector. We determined the best way to get a true picture of this was to get a third cost. ) Ford: We don't project a fee increase. Our fund balance was so great because of an accounting change in how we show funds. The money you saw in the fund balance was money that would be needed for equipment replacement. We found it wasn't legal to put money in separate funds. That money doesn't reflect savings above our costs. i fi Ivory: The process the council went through to contract out part of this service has been very successful. What we're asking for in this M&C is to repeat this activity and to have the consultant update the figures so council can see if we shoule contract out the entire service or remain with what we have now. • 7 Ford: The S30,000 would take cure of all 3 contracts now. Additional money may have to be spent on areas that might be contracted out in the future. ( Lancaster: Is this comparable to the last time?) (Ford: This is less.) Zapata: I think we've done one study, and I think we have & -number of capable people on our staff to do this. I have a serious problem with this firm. ( Bolen: could we delay this a week?) (Ford: It wouldn't hurt to delay it a week.) 3. Presbyterian Night Shelter of Tarrant County (M&C C-9350) Ramon made presentation to staff. Bagsby: I have a problem with the Guinn site being used -for this. I don't have a problem with helping them locate a sight. Tkat used to be the Fort Worth Colored School and some people in the community would like to do something with that facility along the lines of historic preservation. We don't think our area should have to be totally impacted. We already have the one place on Lancaster, and we don't mind taking in some of these street people who don't have anyplace to go. Williams: This is a situation we can look at that there's a joint venture being put together being submitted to the FWISD. There is a plan to use that location already being submitted using private funds. You have some commercial businesses that could go into that location. I have no problems with the shelter, but I don't fee3 I could support this issue right now. I would at least ask for a delay until the 26th when the FWISD will be making a statement. (If this is not acted on now, no motion can be made later?) (Ramon: Yes, that's right. ) Dr. Rowes: We've proposed a joint venture. he final decision the group made was not a satisfactory one. REN N CITY SECRETARY FFT� �, �RT�l, TEX. ADMINISTRATIVE ACTION REQUESTED NOVEMBER 12, 1985 MEMBERS ABSENT: MRS. WETHERBY Item: 1. ITEMS TO BE CONTINUED OR WITHDRAWN Resolution Relating to Federal Fiscal Decisions Affecting Local Government-- Withdrawn indefinitely. MSC G-6456 - Benefit Hearing (Held Over From a Previous Week)--Continued until 12/17. MSC C-9349 - Consultant Services for Rebidding Solid Waste Management i Contractors--Continued for I week. 2. Appointments to Boards and Commissions Mr. Garrison nominated Terry Mayo as second alternate to the Zoning Board of Adjustment. Mr. Zapata appointed Edwardean Harris to Place 7 and Bobby Armstrong to Place 9 on the NRD Board. 3. Requests/Comments MSC C-9341 - Award of Contract - Water Treatment Program for Designated Public Buildings. Mr. Newkird abstained from voting. M&C C-9350 - Presbyterian Night Shelter of Tarrant County Mr. Bagsby: I can't support the request for the James Guinn school. It would impact the area negatively. There are already 2 permanent shelters in that area. It's an industrial piece of land and the best use for it is industrial. Twelve to 18% is the unemployment level for my. district and 8% for the state. One group is proposing to put office spaces in that building. All shelters shouldn't be in one council district. I made a motion we deny this request. Mr. Williams: I called Dr. Candoli, and he expressed what Dr. Bowe had mentioned. There are 3 other schools that will be up for sale within the next month. Here's a chance to put a piece of property on the tax role. I would like to see us work together on this piece of property and also work to help the poor and homeless. Denying this doesn't imply we don't want to give funds to the group. I would also work to make sure you are not displaced so that you don't have to discontinue vour services. Mr. Vance: I share Jim's concerns and have gotten cabs from people who have these people coming into Lheir businesses. what can the City do to address concerns expressed by citizens. There's a problem turning down this IFFICIAL REC , c;iTY SECRETARY Yj. ,',CRTR, TEX. effect putting this group out of business. You have to look at the good of the community beyond that of a single council district. ` Lancaster: Mr. Vance made the points I would made. I am worried about concentrating all of these types of facilities in one district. Maybe we could limit the concentration of people per district. Bagsby: Mr. Lancaster's district takes none of the burden of the poor. My district, Mr. Zapata's, Mr. Newkirk's, and Mr. Williams' takes all the brunt of the problem. I think it's unfair. What the people would ask is are we supposed to take the burden completely? We talk about justice for all. Mayl:e I don't know what spread the wealth and obligation to the community means. Where is the christian belief? What we need in my district is training and jobs. Mr. Lancaster: Each of the areas has its peculiar pluses and minuses. I would gladly trade some of my strip joints for a soup kitchen. I would gladly trade my high crime rate for a shelter for the homeless. (Mr. Bagsby: Mr. Lancaster voted to sell the site for the homeless on Meadowbrook.) Mr. Zapata: Several months back or a year ago when we shut down the farm on Jacksboro, we chose to make it a nature center. I have a concern it's coming back to haunt us. It's not a shelter. The bad part is I'm not sure we're solving the problem. We need to be aware of it and may need to set up a task force to address it. Both sides of this issue has a problem. Mr. Williams: I was hoping we could work together. If we can do both, why can't we work to do both. Give us a chance to work with Dr. Candoli and Dr. Bowes and solve this problem. Dr. Bowes indicated that by law they are obligated to take the bids, but the board could choose to do whatever it wanted. Mr. Bagsby: HUD has a rule against impaction. What you'll force me to do is recommend to my people is to go to court. Dr. Bowes: I don't think we're bringing people to this district. 299 people are limited by City Code. Mayor Bolen: I have grave reservations for closing a facility that takes in 50,000 people a year. I'm not willing to take the risk. Mr. Lancaster: How do you answer Mr. Williams and Bagsby's arguements about the impacts. (Dr. Bowes: Those people are already there, sleeping on the streets. I don't think the numbers are going to change. It's just a matter of whether we're going to give them a place to sleep and something to eat.) Bagsby: Most of the workplaces and manpower are not in my district. Those people can walk much easier from downtown than they can from the Guinn school. These CDBG funds, we'll be taking them and using them in an impactive way. Iiow does this affect eligibility? (Ramon: We checked with HUD regarding the use of the facility for temporary housing. This is a permendnt facility for temporary housing units. We didn't specifically address the impact aspect, but are willing to look into that. ) Bagsby: Before council votes on this can you tell us that this will not affect the impaction rule. Staff has put this MSC before us and haven't done it'4, FtIC1Al homework. The schoolboard will not close the shelter because thev don't h4v r U CRY S ] tETARY FT. WORTH, TEL any further use for it. There was a 5 to 3 vote against the proposal. Mr. Zapata requested a full report on the trip taken by Karen Phillips and Mr. Lancaster requested information on other ships authorized by council. • sj 5. The following zoning dockets were scheduled for special hearings before council on 12/17: Z-85-209 Z-85-233 Z-85-237 Z-85-250 (Mr. Lancaster voted "No") �f aC1Al RSC v"� �; COSY SECR��AR1